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[Weekly Update] December 5, 2021

🕑 Added 2021-12-05 21:56:54 +0000 UTC
[Weekly Update] December 5, 2021

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Accented Cinema

I think the filmmakers were thinking about the same thing when they decides to leave spice more or less unexplained, which sounds like a good decision to focus more on the plot and less on the lore. But my friend ended up finding the world more interesting than the characters, and want to know more about the spice than the people. So in a sense, this whole thing is less a problem and more of a symptom.

jaded cynic

As a MacGuffin, do we really care what spice does other than knowing it is an important resource that everyone fights over? Isn't that the definition of a MacGuffin? We know it is essential for space travel; we know the House of Harkonnen got rich harvesting it over 80 years; we know Paul is sensitive to it and it enhances his "visions." It drives the plot. Isn't that enough? Sure, the book goes into more details, but I appreciate the film does not dive into the LORE. It's a precious thing that the colonizers oppress the natives for. It could be a stand-in for oil, spices, precious metals, what have you. It doesn't matter. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to MCU movies, but I still don't know what the Tesseract does. The fact that the Fremen care about water more than anything, including spice, also drives it home. Maybe we should all care less about what it does and leave Arrakis alone.

Lars Engebretsen

I think Dune worked much better for me than it did for you, but I will concede that it was strangely coy about what spice was all about. If I remember correctly the book says it not only provides the key to long distance space travel, but is also used in small quantities by everyone who can afford it for its health benefits. It seems strange that the movie never got around to spending a minute explaining why it was so important.

David L

I honestly never noticed that. I'll look out of it if I rewatch the film.

Accented Cinema

The problem is some characters sweats while others don't. Like Jason Momoa's character does, a lot of the native characters do, but the main characters don't. It's odd and inconsistent.

Jon Cheetham

Interesting, I've yet to see Dune. I just saw Soho at a refurbished indie cinema in Singapore and it was a lovely experience, brilliant film to see in that setting. It's really entertaining and absolutely gorgeous. In fact I went mainly because it has cinematography by Chung Chung-hoon of Park Chan-Wook collaboration fame. My favourite film this year is still Seobok, a South Korean sci fi film with Train to Busan's Gong Yoo. It's another visual stunner, but I mainly liked it because it's quite "small" in the events it portrays, it felt like a thoughtful sci fi short story put to film (admittedly with a couple of loud action set pieces). Apparently it retells a Joseon era folktale about the search for immortality, so for those with more historical knowledge it probably works even better.

abdul maulud

There are a lot of items not fleshed out in the movie, spice being one of many. Let see how part 2 of the movie fleshes out

Alexis Argyriou

In interviews Denis Villeneuve talked about the difficulty to "find his own way" between the book's description and Lynch's legacy. I think his new designs are very interesting and quite unique, it's much more monolithic and functional than Star Wars or Star Trek. It gives structures and ships a more believable feel. I do agree that it'll become super dry for 3 movies! All major scifi tech has been showcased already, there's not much to wow people in sequels...

David L

I thought Dune was quite unique. Instead of going the Lynch route of practically just transplanting 18th Century Europe into the year 10191, the new film goes far into humanity's past, way back into ancient Mesopotamia for the bas reliefs on the walls and doors. The structural design is pretty brutalist with harsh geometric shapes, which as you say is shared by the technology. The art design matches the brutalism of the system of the Faufreluches where House struggles against House with existential consequences. Comparatively, Lynch's Baroque period art design sets it in the early modern period of nascent nation-states, with heads of state having control over fairly unified countries. Re: Sweat in the desert - I live in the tropics and I've only been in the desert twice, and desert heat is a lot less uncomfortable, at least for short periods. The desert has a "dry" heat as the air has little moisture, so sweat readily evaporates and does not pool into droplets like in the tropics, where it is humid and evaporation is slower.


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