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MiP B2 Chapter 1: Catching Up

🕑 Added 2024-03-12 20:59:56 +0000 UTC

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Jesse Wood

Sounds like aether, mana, and essence are just the three states of mana.

David Ellis

"Wait, what's this about Kindar?" "I hear he sells a lot of chocolate around this time of the year."

ReadingObsessed

R/ItRunsDoom is gold. Seeing smart fridges running it.

13L00D13ANE

No no no, we still havent gotten an answer...

Maurice Brown

That would be the most terrifying scenario for a dungeon.

Maurice Brown

Oh god, I’m dealing with a teenager right now who is like that.

Connor Mcharg

Y’know, I think it might work better if they tell Trinlen (most of) the truth about `help` - they've found a way streamline discovering spell words, so once they knew the sightgate keyword existed, they could find it and drop it into a basic activator spell. It’s not a lie, just a basic “house secret” kind of statement, and lets Trinlen know exactly what parts of that process they still need help with.

ParadoxFox

No, I’m 27. Their mannerisms just felt like those of someone younger. I think it has to do with the way they interact with authority figures, it never feels they’re being treated like adults, just precocious children. Like right now, Amber and Carlos don’t really have many interactions with peers. It’s either people with vastly more or less power than them. It also doesn’t help that they are somewhat clueless about some aspects of progression and politics. The only peer we saw was the other noble girl and she just acted like a bratty teenager. Finally, the other adventures and mercenaries also talk about spoiled noble children, and lumped Carlos and Amber together with them in those discussions. I think all of those factors cemented this impression of youth.

NethanielShade

Genuinely curious, do not mean to be insulting by saying this in any way, but; What makes you say that? Are you 15 yourself and just projecting your age on the characters, or was it how they acted in some way? I’m 24 and I definitely saw Carlos as my age, so I, for one, am guilty of it lol

Crim2582

Carlos and Amber will need to set some boundaries for public behavior in order to fit in with certain expectations on the behavior of nobility. It is likely that their fairness and sense of justice will earn them the respect of the people under their rule. I wonder at what point Carlos will have to reconsider his seemingly gentle nature and face the difficult truth that rulers must sometimes be ruthless or their people will suffer because of the indirect consequences of their mercy.

Markell

To be fair, we’re looking at this from our perspective. If you can come back from dying I think I would also develop a bit of complacency because “what's the worst that could happen?”

Brandon C

I didn’t think about the examiner checking on their soul structure, but you are right. I was thinking about how Purple used Carlos and Amber’s own Comprehension Aid to translate what people were saying before he made own of his own. Yes Carlos did put in a lot of effort to make a plan, but it was not perfect. Without the introspector, they would have been just trying out to fix synergies in the dark under an unknown time limit (1 and a half days).

Douglas Miller

If they were the type to get offended by Trinlen's attitude, it would have happened when they first met him back in the academy. Or, more likely, they would have been less polite to Mallern, and he wouldn't have even introduced them. You're completely right, no argument there, I'm just pointing out that the issue has already come up, and that Trinlen has good reason at this point to *expect* that Carlos and Amber won't mind.

Douglas Miller

Also classic young person feelings of invincibility.

ParadoxFox

To be honest, I thought Carlos and Amber were like 15

Josh

> Is it really that hard to understand that calling aether, mana, and essence all by the same term obscures your meaning and often causes confusion? Or are people so stupid that they can't even understand the difference?" It's a good thing that Trinlen wound up with a couple of nobles who don't get insulted easily. I get the impression some of the other nobles might not receive a comment like this as well as Carlos did.

Josh

A soul structure for a "remote debugging interface" seems potentially feasible, given that the person who examined them had specialized structures for doing so. And the introspector seems so useful that adding another structure or to specifically designed to work well with it seems like a good idea. But before they do any of that, they should be understanding synergies for second level soul structures in detail, so that they can understand what properties those structures need to have. Carlos put a huge amount of effort into designing a plan with a full set of synergies for the first time around.

viperfan7

With all the links purple is forming, I wouldn't be surprised to see more of purple

Markell

Agreed, I’d like to see more of Purple to be honest. I prefer the “backpack companion” instead of the “forgotten at the back of the cupboard” vibes we got going here.

TeFiLeDo

Oh, then I'm sorry for the repetition 😅

ForNatureOfPredatorsStories4837

This talk about different types of mana has got me thinking, IMAO, Carlos should make a soul structure which purpose is to give Carlos “the ability to turn “essence” (the super stable mana that the soul and soul structures are made of) into “mana” (the stuff you use to cast spells)” and a second structure which purpose is “to store and hold “essence” in as compact of a way as posssible” (basically, a soul battery), because IMAO, Carlos’s biggest problem rn (with his soul build atleast (not political, people or other more abstract problems)) is his lack of mana capacity, which limits the types and powers of his spells, Ohh, and as I said in a previous chapters comment, Carlos also needs a structure that gives him “the ability to invert (his own soul structures and spells, and the spells and enchantments of other people, and maybe also eventually the functions of other peoples souls)”, edit: actually, after thinking about it more, Carlos could probably get the “debugger” to turn “essence” into “mana” by making that the synergy between the “debugger” and “”soul battery””, so he’d only need the battery

Elain C. Moria

Ahh that's right. My bad. I def got them confused.

Pheonixarcher

I will find it hilarious if they eventually show the mage 'Help' and he says, "Holy shit you guys found that?! I found that my freshmen year and its how I managed to get through all my classes."

Douglas Miller

You're conflating Lord Merchant Darmelkon with Enchanter Tornay. Darmelkon is a merchant and businessman, and not an enchanter. He just happened to end up working together with an enchanter early in the story.

Douglas Miller

You are at least the 5th person to ask whether this story's magic can run Doom.🤣

viperfan7

Oh Trinlen is gonna love Purple isn't he. Although I feel like Purple is being treated like an object :( Purple doesn't seem to mind though

Elain C. Moria

Hmm so in the last chapter of the previous book we discovered that the royal guards enchantments had some issues. House whatzit tried to kill our hero's and now that enchanter wants his son (kindar is his son right?) to become a noble... If I were Carlos, I'd refuse that enchanters request until the enchanters guild gets properly shook out of the rats nested within it, and house dumbass gets mud stomped by Carlos. Of course, if I were writing (and I suck at it so I won't be lol), I'd sucker kindar with some real crappy and useless soul structures that on their face value look good, but in reality are just crap. But i'm more evil than you are. Now.. as for house arrogance and the spoiled brat daughter.... I think Carlos should just systematically kill them all, repeatedly, in an automated murder box... for the rest of eternity. Again, I'm more evil than you are so... Finally... Purple def needs to be uplifted to an orichalcum soul plan sooner rather than later cause House Carlos is def gonna be needing a real strong dungeon core to help defend his home. I also think miss investigator should get some help with soul structures. Maybe not to royal status, but stuff that will help her with what she does best. And finally... Carlos and Amber need a deceptively "cute" pet that can chew the ass off of a God. Just for the fun of the occasional "BRUTUS!!!! Put the shop keep down... gently!" XD

Dan Chadwick

Wouldn't that be awesome?! VR-IRL

Brandon C

IMHO, they should do that for Kindar, but not yet. Carlos needs practice with his second stage. With the son, he’s not going to have a second chance to fix any problems, unless Carlos is planning to give him an introspector and debugger too. (Which I doubt since that will make Carlos responsible for him). Or Carlos makes a soul structure to let him interface into someone else’s soul structure.

Maurice Brown

Now I’m wondering about just how powerful he’d be with machine language access…

Markell

Trinlen is wayyy too comfortable with the idea of being employed by nobles who have actively been targeted. A classic blend of being given a brain large enough to know it what it means, but not the head to hold the wisdom of it.

TeFiLeDo

Now that I'm thinking about it, can the magic system run Doom?

TeFiLeDo

> Inversion of control, dependency injection, factory patterns... Spells casting spells? One could build a computer out of that. Yes, I know that there is already some kind of computer running the spells. I'm talking about a general purpose computer like we have.

Red Panda

Tyftc


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