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Wicked Succubi: The First True CC Occult v2.2.1 [Beta]
🕑 Added 2021-01-20 23:21:42 +0000 UTC
Okay, so this is how we are doing it. It’s going to be so simple. You see you make your sim a succubus, then you have them go to the mirror and hit the reforge menu then you have these things called templates then you have to create a template or clone a template or assign a template then you edit the template and you can edit it in cas but like only some parts and on a mannequin then for the other parts you slide those suckers on the human form of your sim and you go to ‘edit extra parts’ and you find the cas item in the slot on your sim which you with to apply to your succubus… wait but how do you know if your cas item is in skin detail dimple right vs skin detail freckle or tattoo upper vs lower? Install sims 4 studio and learn to mod obviously then after you are adept at sims 4 studio and you copy the correct parts to the occult form then you totally delete those parts from your human form and finally you can set a custom skintone if you so choose. Oh, and the forms are stored in a custom folder in your mod folder.
FUCK ALL THAT BS
I can’t believe I ever thought the above would be intuitive. So, I’m pleased to announce the above fuckery is gone and succubi are now the first modded cc occult for the sims with a True Occult Form!
True Occult Forms, What’s different
This is an oversimplification, but there are three parts to getting a true occult form system working.
- Editing. You need to be able to edit the occult form.
- Applying. You need to apply the occult form to your sim during live gameplay and remove it during live gameplay.
- Saving/Loading. The occult form needs to persist on your sim across zones and save/load events.
I’m pleased to announce that two of these areas are done completely. You can fully edit your Succubi’s True Occult Form and save/load it with all the edits. However, I have not enabled full applying of the occult form yet for three reasons. The primary one is to reduce the number of possible causes for any bug reports on this new system. The secondary one is for the new system mentioned below, and tertiary is time. I wanted to get this new change out into your hands as soon as possible. This means that although you can change the body shape of your succubi occult form just like you would a normal sim, same with adding and removing outfits, only the cas items for the outfits will be applied to your succubi when transforming during live gameplay. But don’t worry, applying the rest of the data is coming.
This also means that the occult form data is now stored on your sim instead of in your mods folder, the confusing blend/separated and ignore/respect nudity settings are gone, multiple outfits are now supported for your succubus, and as mentioned above, you can fully edit your occult forms like you would a normal occult form in cas.
Genetic Occult Outfit, The Only Complexity
I’ve made it no secret since succubi’s first beta release that I intend to make a true occult framework for other modders so they can make true CC occults and Succubi are my testbed for such a system. As I got close to unlocking Maxis’ occult system, I realized that I didn’t really want a carbon copy of the vanilla occult system. Imagine if it were such a copy and you had horns in the hat slot, hooves in the shoe slot, and wings in the outfit top slot. If this were the case, then both Maxis and WW would just remove the outfits parts when they see fit. Like in the shower, or during sex, or the hooves when taking off the shoes on entering a house, etc. more annoyingly, you’d have to manually apply these parts to every outfit too and even then there is no guarantee that special outfits (like career outfits) would overwrite some of these parts. This isn’t really what I want, nor what I think other occult modders would want. Thus, I came up with what I’m calling the Genetic Occult Outfit (GOO). The GOO replaces your first everyday outfit, so you’ll notice when you edit your occult for the first time, their first outfit will nude. Imagine this is what you want your succubus to look like when they are completely stripped of clothing. Here’s an example of my GOO for the test succubus shown in the Title Card above:
Each part equipped on the GOO signifies something which can’t be removed from the succubus. That means she’ll always have hooves, horns, the pointy ears, and her makeup details regardless of what outfit she is wearing or her state of undress. When you apply this occult form live in game, the second outfit in everday cas will be shifted up one. So, you’ll never see the Genetic Occult Outfit during live play (unless ofc you strip your succubus completely).
A New Reforge Menu
Since all the extra parts and templates are no longer needed for Succubi, the reforge self menu has been vastly simplified. You have three options:
- Edit in CAS is straight forward. Edit the occult form in CAS like you would a normal sim. You’ll notice randomized traits and a randomized name right now but that’s okay to ignore. Otherwise edit your succubus to your intent.
- Copy Body Shape. Edit the shape of your human sim and you want the changes to be reflected when editing their occult form? Not a problem. Hitting this option will copy the body\face shape (not outfit parts) from your sim to their saved True Occult Form.
- Reset to Default. Do some major fuckery and now your succubus looks like a monster, and not in a good way? Need to delete fucking everything. Not a problem. Simply hit this option to return your occult form to its default appearance for when your sim first became a succubus.
!!!UPDATE YOUR SUCCUBUS!!!
This is very important if you are updating succubi from the old system. Because succubi were previously true occults but didn’t have a True Occult Form System, some of the old data will be stuck on your succubus. Luckily, they can be updated rather painlessly. Be sure you have testing cheats enabled (testingcheats true in the console) then shift click on your succubus, go to WP extras and then humanize them. Next, go to the computer and make them a Succubus again. This should update their internal data.
If you skip this step on an old succubus, then their new occult form will not permanently save to their occult data! So be sure to do this if updating!!!!
Some Small Changes
A few of you have experienced the LE generated from my mod’s save data not loading. This LE is annoying so I have implemented an autofix in my mod. Now in case my mod’s save data becomes corrupted, it will notify you of the corruption and auto reset the corrupted file.
A compatibility patch for those of you using the Patreon version of MCC has been included (8.0.0+).
The bug with succubi eyes becoming stuck on some occult types, especially sorcerers, has been fixed and the Succubi Occult Eyes has been made selectable in cas for your convenience.
Known Issues:
This will be resolved in the next major occult form update to this system. Until I bring body sculpt application to occult forms, your occult form and human form needs to have the same number of outfits + an extra one for the GOO. If you don’t, then this is okay. Your occult form will just apply their human outfit with their GOO applied over it like it were a special outfit such as the career outfit. If your succubus has more outfits than your human form then they simply won’t apply it right now.
This will also be resolved in the next major occult form update. While in your occult form all your outfits will look the same in the outfit selector. They aren’t actually, don’t worry.
There’s an uncommon bug that I think I fixed but it seems harmless. I plan to continue working on it if it’s not gone. Rarely, when exiting editing your occult form in cas, it’ll load into the game but you won’t be loaded into your household. Relax, breathe, don’t save. Go straight to manage worlds and then choose your household and report that it happened to me on discord so I can continue hunting this bug. You should be safe to continue playing from there.
Okay, So Where is the Update!!!
This is Beta!!! Just like the first occult form system the link is pinned in the velvet room channel on the discord. I know this isn’t the ideal way to release this update but given how successful bug hunting was when releasing succubi initially in this way and this is a new occult form system. I want to exercise extra caution in case there are any really bad bugs (like the slenderman bug in the initial system) which I missed during development/testing. Make sure to save to a new temporary save after installing this update to protect your original saves from bugs if there are any bad ones I missed. I don’t plan on their being anything that bad, but again, this is a first for the modding community and I want to take extra precautions.
If you would like to try the beta then please link your discord account to your Patreon account as shown here to gain access to the discord.
If you would rather not, then that’s fine too! I will be moving the beta release to a Patreon post for downloading (like usual) as soon as I feel it is safe enough to do so! Thank you for your understanding and patience. I also plan on this version being the first version of Succubi to go public too. I held off on making the last beta public given it’s MASSIVELY CONFUSING and temporary pseudo-occult form system. No support staff on any sims modding site should be forced to deal with that headache.
[As mentioned above, when bugs are worked out it will be brought to Patreon for Downloading. So, soon!]
Comments
Nisa K.
After linking your Patreon Account to your Discord account, the Patreon bot should auto add you to the discord. A guide can be found here: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/212052266-How-do-I-connect-Discord-to-Patreon-Patron- but let me know if you need any further assistance! I look forward to seeing you on the discord!!!
RiverissoFly
Oh, I wonder where I can join your discord wip channel, I’m curious about the external reproduction you’re adding.
Nisa K.
Correct! Children of succubi is problematic in several ways. I'll be adding a unique form of external reproduction however to get around the issues! I have talked about it more recently on my discord wip channel if you are interested!
RiverissoFly
i just realized that succ can't get pregnant, even i set the pregnancy chance high in wicked whims.
Hi, how are you, I recently registered on patreon, I don't understand how I get my benefits on discord, I can't see where I download I'm already linked my discord account to patreon How do I get to the velvet room? I saw a lot about your ''mod'' and I liked it very much unfortunately I don't find where I can download it, if you can pass me the link where I can find the room I will be very grateful once again from your big fan thanks and sorry for the bad English
Nisa K.
Hey Kriszta! I got your message on discord too! I'm sorry for the confusion, you can find the latest version here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicked-hotpatch-53970643 which includes all pervious updates.
Kriszta
How can I get this? I made a discord profile but no clue what I am supposed to do. I thought I will find everything here after I pay :(
Nisa K.
Thank you for your support Brandy, the latest version with all updates included can be found here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicked-hotpatch-53375290 Let me know if you have any further questions!
Brandy Jones
How do i add this to my game? I cant find a link
Nisa K.
Hey cateness! Go up to any mirror with your succubus while in human form and hit the 'reforge self' option, then the edit in cas popup.
I made one of my sim to succubus. and I didn't find option to customize succubus form. Where can i make custom?
Nisa K.
Thank you for your support Monsieur Ginger! I see you messaged me too (which is totally fine! Your my patron, feel free to message me as much as you'd like) but I'll respond here since more people will see the response if that's okay! Right now I'm fleshing out the core 'vanilla' experience to being a Succubus. Going forward I'll be adding powers, weaknesses, and events which will allow you to customize your sex demon for your preferred gameplay style. Which will, ofc, include a route for a more dangerous interoperation of a succubus. For now, however, everytime a succubus sleeps with a mortal who can age, their partner will age up some days and Succubi will age down according to your setting or to the minimum consenting adult age. This means that it's possible to sleep with a sim until they die from old age.
Silly Filly
I have a question. I see what you can screw someone to death but how. i kinda like my sim to be a Yandere. lol
Nisa K.
Hey Sydnee, Thank you for your support. I don't see a discord account linked to your Patreon account. After linking your discord to your Patreon you should get auto added to the mod's discord channel with the correct roles. This article can provide more help on the matter: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/212052266-Get-my-Discord-role and let me know if you need further help getting to the discord!
hello i'm having trouble joining the discord but I cant reforge while my sims is unrestrained and I'm not sure how fix that.
Nisa K.
Hey Selena! I know I already replied to you on discord but just in case for anyone else wondering. The hair is from here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/helia-hair-39471084 and the tail is the deer tail form here: https://pyxiidis.tumblr.com/post/179538353771happy simming!!!
Selena
Hi Nisa. Where did you get the hair? They look great. The only thing missing from the succubi is the tail.
Nisa K.
Thank you for your support Tala! While I don't support hybrid occults officially (it's enough of a challenge for now to just get true occults off the ground), It's possible that they may work, give it a try and let me know what you found out! (but try on a new save just in case!!!)
Is it possible to be a Witch or Vampire and also a Succubus or would that cause any issues?
Nisa K.
Take a human, none occult, of consenting age sim to the computer then tam explorer -> research occult and make sure they are not a Pheromonal Flower, WW Doll, black widow, Daughter of the Easter Hare, etc! (overlaping features, either current like the pheromones or planned)! Let me know if you have further questions and thank you for your support!
Ashley Martin
How do you become a succubus?
Nisa K.
Hey Richard! Thank you for your support. A guide for linking your discord account to your patreon account is here: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/212052266-Get-my-Discord-role#:~:text=Step%201%3A%20Log%20in%20to,role%20tied%20to%20your%20Tier! Then the bot should auto add you to the server with the correct roles. If it doesn't then you may need to unlink and relink you account! Let me know how if you need any further assistance!
Richard Hatfield
How do I get to the velvet room?
jennbooga125
ok great thank you i will send you a pm here
Nisa K.
Hey Jeennbooga! Thank you for your support! You can send an LE to me here via copy and pasting it's contents directly into a free no account needed service such as pastebin.com and sending me the link or you can send it to me via discord! Whichever is the most convenient! If you need another way then I'm sure we can find one too!
jennbooga125
Hi I'm fairly new to this and I want to talk about a last exception I got. Where do I start for that?
Nisa K.
Thank you for your support xVVitch! It took me a little bit to track down but it's by Pyxis (she has a lot of great occult maxis match cc but sadly I think she's mia), it's included in this pack: https://pyxiidis.blogspot.com/2018/08/demon-days-vampire-stuff.html Enjoy!!!
xVVitch
Where can i get the arm tattoo/overlay(whatever the black gradient is)? I love the way it looks.
Plumpkin Pumpkin
Thank you so much for getting back to me, I'll see if I can play with it a bit more and follow what you just wrote here. You've been a great help <3, good luck with the mod!
Nisa K.
Hey Plumpkin! Thank you for your feedback. To be clear you are trying out version 2.2.1+ (2.2.1c or higher) which is found on the discord an not v2.2.0se which can be found here, correct? For 2.2.1c it should be relatively simple, you go to the mirror, reforge self, then edit in cas like you would for any other occult forms. The GOO is the only bit of complexity, one that's necessary since cc occult parts can be pretty much on any body slot (hat, socks, shoes, accessories) and I need to know what parts are considered 'always on' so that they aren't removed with changing outfits to none traditional outfits (such as career) and when undressing for sex. Other than having patrons do something much more complicated to keep parts on, like altering their body slot position in sims 4 studio, there isn't another practical way to go about this which I can think of. Again, as mentioned in the post above, there are three parts to True Occults. Applying the form during live gameplay, editing the form, and saving/loading the form. I have editing and saving/loading fully done. You can change the shape of the body in CAS, change the shape of the face, etc and the changes will stick to your occult form. However, while I have a demo of maxis full application in the release build and it working in my dev build I have not yet released it because it'll need some more work to get it compatible with GOOs. This means, in the meantime, the sculpt changes will not yet apply with the occult form during live gameplay, however, again, the changes will save. I've also not released full application yet to help better narrow the focus of bug reports. There are a few bugs still in 2.2.1+, one of the small ones is that I need to auto enable cas.fulleditmode when editing occults. I have this enabled by default in my game using MCC so I forgot that it's not something everyone has enabled by default. Until I get that fix out, using the cheat should enable full editing of the occult in cas. Including skintone and body shape morphs.
Plumpkin Pumpkin
Hi there! so I tried out the beta and I wanted to give you my two cents about my experience. I love this idea, I wanted to start with that but I found the navigation on editing the appearance of the Succubus to be very confusing and complicated. I wasn't quite sure on how to go about changing my sim's transformed design, it took me a good 30 minutes to understand the menus and get her outfit on, she was missing eyelashes, she wouldn't wear clothes, it was quite a frustrating experience for me. I was also disappointed that I couldn't change her skin colour. Now I have no idea how mod making works, I'm sure it's complicated AF. But would it be possible in the future to maybe get the CAS Succubus to work similarly to how you create vampires? That way you have less menu items to sift through and you can just unlink the different transformations? I do hope you don't think I'm being harsh. I adore your mods! and I do understand that this is the beta so things may change in the future. I can't wait to see where this goes! best of luck, stay safe! <3
Nisa K.
Hey Vee! The Patreon bot should auto add you to the discord channel for my mod with the appropriate rolls. If you can not see more than the wcif room then you don't have the appropriate rolls! The beta is pinned in the velvet lounge channel there! Let me know if you have further problems, if the patreon bot didn't add you with appropriate roles you my have to unlink and relink your patreon to your discord account!
Vee
I want to try to beta version. I think I've now linked my patreon to discord. I think. :( Not sure what to do after that though.
Nisa K.
Hey inuu1bz! There is no need to worry, the mod will be posted on Patreon soon! Right now there are still bugs. The bugs are being worked on live on discord and there's already been 2 patches. When the bugs are gone i'll be moving it back to Patreon. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. True occult forms are a first for the sims modding community so I'm taking extra precautions for their release. I don't expect this to become a common thing. In fact, the beta room on discord will likely be closed in a month's time. Again I'm sorry for the inconvenience. It won't be long before a stable version comes to Patreon!!!!
Nisa K.
Thank you for your support Simmer! I use the Mini Giles edit of the Natalia-Auditore hooves if you are talking about the hooves! Both can be found here: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/15428-ww-wp-edit-of-natalia-auditore-illidan-foots/ https://www.patreon.com/posts/illidan-foots-24063649 [from a previous reply]
Simmer
What are the names of those hoofs and who made them?
I'm from China, I can't open the link on Discord!!Sorry, is there any other way?
thank you that worked =)
Nisa K.
This will show you how to link your discord with your Patreon: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/212052266-Get-my-Discord-role#:~:text=Step%201%3A%20Log%20in%20to,role%20tied%20to%20your%20Tier! If you already have done this and do not see more than the wcif page on discord then please unlink and then relink your Patreon account to your discord account, it should kick the Patreon bot's butt into high motion!
Nisa K.
Thank you for your support Kruzade! I use the Mini Giles edit of the Natalia-Auditore hooves if you are talking about the hooves! Both can be found here: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/15428-ww-wp-edit-of-natalia-auditore-illidan-foots/ https://www.patreon.com/posts/illidan-foots-24063649
Hello I don't see the download on discord
Asura
Can you share the bottom/feet cc as a regular clothing?
Risiera
Yay I am back and I see Nisa brought us new goodies <3
Nisa K.
The old version should still work!
Nisa K.
It is on the discord! Otherwise I'll be bringing it to Patreon as soon as I feel it is stable enough!
Is there a non beta version that works with the latest patch?
Daniella
oh thought it was available :o cant wait til it is!
ST77
Love these changes! keep up the amazing work!
Nisa K.
Thank you for your support Takia! Bottom of the post is a link to here https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/212052266-Get-my-Discord-role#:~:text=Step%201%3A%20Log%20in%20to,role%20tied%20to%20your%20Tier! which should tell you how to link your discord account to your Patreon account. Let me know if you have any further questions! -Nisa
Takia Wright
How do I get to your Discord as a Patreon
EboniSimmer
Same with me. I believe she changed who has access based on what tier you are in? At least that's how it appears to me :-( But, I 'll wait for her final answer here with you.
Tiger
Thank you so much for making it easy because I never changed my succubus into the form because I didn’t even understand it but now that it’s easier it’s simplified a lot easier for me so thanks again
Val Rodriguez
Hi Nisa!! I haven't logged onto discord in ages, and am currently not able to post anything on your server. Is The Velvet Room no more?
Nisa K.
Sounds like things are as they should be! Thank you for your support, more content to come!!!!!
Hey Nisa! Love this update! My Sim is now a Succubi and my Sims now wont stop having sex around her! XD haha. Thanks for the amazing work you do for us!
Nisa K.
Thank you for your support Douglas! Traits/powers and a social system is planned for Succubi, with powers already having some work completed but not yet unlocked in the release build (ask me on discord anytime to see the succubus summoning tome). There is also a 'transformation quest' planned too. True occult forms have come a bit early to succubi, which i'm extremely pleased by! I hope to see you on the discord soon and let me know if you have any further questions!
Douglas Bower
Just getting back into The Sims after a year or two away and this looks great! I was actually looking for something like this last night but I'm not on Discord (at least not yet). Just curious, will there be special Occult traits/powers?
faifth
if you haven't been told already. You are a true Queen 👑👑👑👑 thank you for all your hard work!
