Post "Wicked Perversions: Eggs, Debts and Tentacles v2.1.7g" by "NisaKsPervs" from patreon

Murka UA

I have an issue with the prostitution and debt system. I register my sim to be a debt slave, but now, nothing happens. my sim has been registered as a debtor forever, but no customer calls and the creditor sim (a sim I created only for that, I don't use it) doesn't seem to force my sim to prostitute herself. sims cant be debt slaves now?

Nisa K.

I'm sorry for the delay in getting back to you AussieTeaDrinker! I've been mostly away this weeekend taking care of irl things. The latest version can be found here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/wicked-mini-form-45151185 and if you are getting any last exceptions then please send them to me on the discord or via something like pastebin.com!!!!

Nisa K.

Hey Zhanna! Thank you for all your support. Because people get confused and install old, out of date versions of my mod, I end up removing old versions from old posts. The latest version can be found here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hotpatch-wicked-38891077 which includes all updates in previous versions of the mod. Don't hesitate to reach back out for anything else!

zhanna

Hi! Im trying to download the update but for some reason there are no link on this post for me to download.. I am a member, and this post is unlocked, I have downloaded a most resent hotpatch, is that it? thank you

Nisa K.

Very strange Imani. Everything should be compatible right now. Maybe try removing both WW and my mod from your mods folder and then reinstalling the latest version of each. Also don't forget to clear your cache like so: https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/help/cache.php

Imani Lawrence

idk if it's just m game but it keeps saying this is not compatible with my wicked whims mode because it's out dated but I've downloaded the new versions of both you mod and their mod. any suggestions?

Drewsph77

Just curious, but if you have a household member who is a slave/sex doll, is it possible to play as the non-doll household member and offer your doll to visitors/npc's? Thanks in advance.

Nisa K.

Enjoy Robert!!!! Let me know if you have any issues and thank you for your support!!!

RobertAtNyte

Finally! I get Wicked Perversions back?

Nisa K.

Hey Joe!!! Thank you for your support. It's probably because you are attempting to apply my player only cas traits (DoEH, ST, BW, PF) to npc sims. These traits are either resource intensive or have powerful effects (imagine if your world was 20 percent pheromonal flowrs! everyone would be flirty all the time!!!) and so by default they are limited to players for now. I have plans to bring some of these traits to NPCs but it's not high priority atm.

Joe

The traits don’t stay in place in game play 😶

Nisa K.

Hmmm interesting, when I first got your bug report I checked my source code for oversight and then jumped in game to manually test it, it all seemed fine on my end. Are you importing the new sims from gallery? If so, it's possible they are importing with traits and things from their past life (they still may techinically be a prostitute or a caged bird). It's a shame, but sims don't import as 'blank slates' from the gallery. Also, relationship checks do matter for WW, are the two sims you are trying to have hook up each have high romance and friendship? If not then that will influence the chances of a succesful interaction too. I think WW does use some rng. Also make sure you test in the same location for the WW only test vs the WW and WP test. Let me know if any of this helped you figure out what was going wrong.

cecefabbabe_8282

I get what you're saying, but I'm playing with a brand new save and household and neither of my sims are prostitutes or caged birds. However, next time I play I'll check my settings and maybe reset them and see if that works. Thanks again.

Nisa K.

I just double checked the code and tested it in game. So far it's working for me. What I think may be happening in your game is that one or both of your sims that you are using are using a feature of my mod which changes the way sex acceptance works. For instance, a client who is waiting to be serviced by a prostitute will refuse normal sex requests because he doesn't want to spoil his appetite for what he paid for. A prostitute will refuse casual sex because she doesn't give that away for free (they must pay or the prostitute needs a 80 or higher romance with the sim), caged bird sims won't have sex with sims they aren't allowed to have sex with. Does it sound like it's a scenario like this?

cecefabbabe_8282

Yepp, that's it. With your mod installed it doesn't work but when I uninstall it, the interaction works fine.

Nisa K.

Hey cecefabbabe! Thank you for all your support!!! I'm a tad confused by this, isn't the 'have sex' interaction a WW interaction? Are you saying it works without my mod installed but breaks with it installed?

cecefabbabe_8282

Hey Nisa, thanks for the update. I noticed that with this last fix the 'Have Sex' option in the Romance pie menu from WW doesn't work. WW works fine and it's not creating a LE but when I click on that option my sims don't follow that command. Thanks in advance.

True AI

Thanks for the update! You're amazing!

Nisa K.

Thank you for the feedback Jonatas. It's true that my sex finding code is going to need a bit more altering before i start using it en masse for autonomous prostitution. You can sorta get what you want right now when playing a prostitute by using sex anchors and escort locks, but when playing the client, you pretty much need to alter my mod's global sex location preferences in the tam explorer. Try using my room preference system, it uses a separate system than TURBOs that's more simple but fails less often (in my experience).

Tokay Gris

You could also try marking the door to the special room to allow access only for escort service.

YanLu

Hi, I managed to solve the problem by having them have sex anywhere. The problem is that I created a specific room for this, put those Wicked stickers to not allow sex in other places but this always causes that mistake of not finding a place. However there are several beds and sofas, but they want to have sex in the middle of the room or outside and I don't think that's cool. When I put it to define by location and choose room, it also gives this error. Wouldn't it be possible to define them to do it only in bed or on sofas? Couldn't this functionality be added in a future update? Like just allowing sex on the couch, bed, etc. I also tried the comfort option but even so this error happened, they just don't want to use the room, but they prefer the club floor or the bushes outside lol

Nisa K.

Hey Jonatas! Thank you for all your support and I'm sorry for the late reply! Please feel free to join the discord server by linking your Patreon account with your Discord account. While this isn't required, you'll get live support there which may be more helpful in helping with your bug! So for the error, is it a notice that sex initiation failed or is it a Last Exception ? If it's a Last Exception then please send me the raw file so I can better understand what's happening in your game. If it's just a notice of a suitable location not being found then it's likely because of your prostitute's sex settings. You can change this globally by clicking on any computer then going to the tam explorer and then the settings menu. There you should be able to set how much privacy your prostitute wants when starting sex or alternatively if they only want to start sex in certain types of rooms.

YanLu

Hey I'm new here (sorry for my English) I have the latest version of your mod nisa perversions. I created a stripp club with the Wicked mod and added some strippers as call girls. But when customers ask for sex, an error appears that it was not possible to start the interaction alone, as if there is no available place, but there are several places, I don't know what happens, I'm not able to play, no yes initiates sex automatically; (. I need help what should I do?

esmichii

Hey, no problem. Thanks for listening, and for being an amazing creator. I really appreciate all your work. Thanks again.

Nisa K.

Awesome, it does sound like a fun idea, I'll add it on my list of todos but the earliest I'll start looking into it will probably be after I finish my succubus sweating system.

esmichii

I DO mean the "came across 20K" and I also mean kind of like the Uni loans where you can make payments randomly if you have the money. My current sim is trying this thing where she pays her bills BEFORE throwing house parties and going to the mall... but she always does that before midnight lol. I really like the idea of the early payment punishment as well. ;)

Nisa K.

Thank you for your support Essense! If you mean with cheats, then you can, but if your sim came across... idk 20k and they were 20k in debt and instead of just giving some percentage, they wanted to give the entire thing at once... I guess I haven't given this much thought as usually sims that are under this system are too poor to do such things.... Is that what you are asking for? I wouldn't be against adding something like this but I'd want some punishment for paying off early (there are real life versions of this, where if you pay off a debt early you are punished for it). Maybe a special visit to negotiate with the debt owner if they exist or a cancellation fee if they don't?

esmichii

Hey Nisa, I love your mods!! Do you think paying off a debt early would be a possibility? Or would that defeat the purpose?

SimplyRod

Very very very good job you've done, Mister... or Mistress. Keep going! All is working nicely! ^^

Venus 🍃

You're the best!! that was so fast!!

Plumb

I will try that. Thanks so much again! :)

Nisa K.

Hey Plumb! Thank you for your kind words and support! This can happen on occasion, try making the ST sim your active sim and then go to a computer -> tam explore -> Settings -> Debugging and there should be a Unstuck ST sim option which will fix your sim. Let me know if it doesn't work out for you!

Plumb

Thanks so much for the wonderful mod, and the hard work it takes to get these done for the community. I love it and wouldn't even consider playing without your mods. I do have a small issue though that I was hoping to figure out here, if it's the right place for this. I've done some research, and nothing I have done has solved the problem. I tested the ST trait, and now one of my female sims is stuck with the tears texture, and nothing I have done has gotten rid of it. I have used the command to clear tats to no avail. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again!

Inky

Thanks for the update Nisa!!

cparker

Hey, Thanks for responding so quickly! Thanks for explaining what the prompt meant. I have a lot with 12 sims on it using MCCC to allow the additional sims. The prompt usually happens when multiple prostitutes get calls. It may be the amount of sims on the lot. I didn't know there was a limit to total number of sims on a lot, not just household members. Ill keep testing to see if anything else could be the problem. I also get an LE when sex is accepted. that when i put it into lastexception.com says "unknown error" I don't know if its WW or BM or WP. I also figured out how to link my account on discord, thanks again for the info! Have a great day!

Nisa K.

OH! and for a tutorial on how to link your patreon account to your discord account please look here: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/212052266-Get-my-Discord-role Let me know if you need more assistance with this!

Nisa K.

Hey Christian Parker! I'm sorry for the late reply! This is a 'soft error' that's why it's not a Last Exception. The prostitution situation is saying that the game is keeping a client from joining for some reason and so the situation is gracefully failing. It's safe to keep playing. Why this is happening? It's hard to say, that's why I have the notice pop up in this way, to try and help narrow down the cause. It's because the game is deciding, for some reason, that the client is unavailable for your prostitution situation. The only definite reason we narrowed down so far is that holidays can cause this. But it's not typical at all. In my game I don't experience this while testing. Can you see anything happening in your game which may be preventing the client from joining? Maybe there are too many sims on the lot and the zone director is saying no more sims are allowed? Can you try on a different lot, a different sim? What are the results?

cparker

sorry it says "Unk client was unable to show for situation, expected: 0"

cparker

Hey Nisa, I keep getting a "Unk client was unable to show for situation" prompt whenever my prostitute sim answers a call. Is there a reason why?

Nisa K.

Oops, I meant set 'player_only' to False. Sorry, Patreon isn't letting me edit my post right now. Bug again, do it at own risk, read above message. Don't do it for any other trait than DoEH.

Nisa K.

Lol, I'm planning on opening them all back up to NPCs. But, right now only DoEH is ready for this but it's currently untested. If you modify the trait tuning and set the 'player_only' tuning to True then it will apply to npcs. But I want to stress again that I haven't thoroughly tested it yet and I'll want to add some more features for when I formally open them to NPCs so other players can have some unique interactions with bunny sims. (Like ask about their pregnancies, etc). Note that enabling that flag for the other player traits will 100 percent cause problems. But DoEH might work. If you want to test, test on a new save please and keep in mind it's not fully supported yet.

Daggett Beaver

"I have special player traits which aren't supposed to be ever applied to NPCs (DoEH, Sensually Tight, Black Widow, and PF although there will be a way to add DoEH sims to NPC sims sometime soon)" ---- Personally, I'd love to see ALL of those traits applied to NPCs, either randomly, or through a player-activated cheat.

the Philosopher

Thank you for the reply 🙏 😊

Nisa K.

Hey the Philosopher! Thank you for your support, I also replied to you in the discord to add to the lovely replies the other community members have given you!

Patrick Deno

Katchioga, much obliged. Glad my question helped you as well. I was pretty sure, as I mentioned, that I was just missing something obvious. Most times when I ask such questions, that's usually the cause. I'm just glad that this time it wasn't me being stupid. I'm sure Nisa will update her description at some point and make it clearer for everyone else as well.

Tokay Gris

My guess is that you have to disable the door for sex autonomy. Shift Click on the door, whicked and "disable for sex autonomy" (I think thats the way it goes.)

the Philosopher

Hello Nisa, I have a quick question so I am using the directional escort only locks in my stripclub bedrooms but whenever they start the job they are having sex at the door anyway for the prostitutes to service clients on the bed ?

Katchioga Bediako

Thanks for asking a question I didn't know to ask. You rock the hizzie for shizzie, too, Patrick.

Patrick Deno

You rock the hizzie, Nisa (yeah, I'm showing my age). Thanks for all you do! That answered my question perfectly.

Nisa K.

It wasn't when I first made my prostitution system. But after a few overhauls it's now much easier todo. Still, I want to change one more system at least before i explicitly provide this situtation but expect it soon in the next few months.

Tokay Gris

Noticed something a few days ago: While you can call up prostitues through the Tam explorer and sample assortment and you can call more than one - resulting in groupsex - the other way around is not there. Meaning, - say - a couple can't get a prostitute to serve them both. .... I suspect, the coding for that is not that easy. ... Probably on one side (the "johns" (hm... female "john" would be what?): Action-Form group-> Hire a prostitute together? ... But as a prostitute, getting hired by multiple sims? Probably not that easy to code.

Nisa K.

Great question Patrick! It's sorta embarrassing but I overlooked this a bit (I manually set up my significant NPC sims typically by setting them as played sims), I'll add in some owner/stripper interactions to turn npc's strippers into prostitutes but in the meantime you can use a console command 'nisa.slutify first_name last_name' where first_name and last_name are the first and last name's of the npc you want to prostitutify. Thank you for your support, let me know if you have any further concerns!

Patrick Deno

Over at LoversLab there is a blurb in your description for this mod that reads thusly: "Prostitute strippers don’t need to be players! Don’t want to play a stripper, then that’s fine. Npc prostitute strippers will continue to gain and service clients by themselves, sending a cut of their profits to the club, but only player strippers will give the player notifications about when they are about to start a job. This is the first time my prostitution system has had full autonomy. Strip club clients are there for the club, not your stripper. This means that prostitutes do not gain prostitution clients on their client list while providing extra services at the strip club." I have the Patreon version of WW and, for the life of me, I can't figure out how to set up NPC strippers to be prostitutes. Could you explain the game mechanic a bit better on this aspect? I'm sure it's something silly that I'm overlooking, but if I can't control the NPCs, how can I get them to sign up for Eden?

Tokay Gris

Found the problem. I'll write a DM about it.

Tokay Gris

Weird problem here. Probably with this mod, but probably caused by something else. I can't set the slutting "uniform" anymore and I can't put it on. Did something change? Something - probably another mod - seems to have messed up my wheel.

Tokay Gris

On a sidenote and what I have noticed through the years: What women view as "sexy" clothing and what men view as "sexy" clothing differs tremendously. (I know that this was not about that. Just came to mind...)

Nisa K.

Thank you for your support Megan! Yes, I love the dress too, in my game, I'm using my succubus with the royalty mod so she can be a princess. I feel the dress matches the roll perfectly. I got it from https://www.patreon.com/coloresurbanos it was the september #2 post from last year. I'm not sure if it has gone public yet or not.

Megan

Hi Nisa, thank you for the update! Unrelated question: where did you get the white dress in the last photo of the post?? Super cute!

Tokay Gris

Isn't an incubus male?

Nisa K.

Wasn't Lilu the incubus? It turns out maybe there are a few more surprises to be found from the 5th element, lol!

Tokay Gris

Just for fun: Just read that the first mention of succubi was from Mesopotamia and one of the names was "Lilu". .... Wait, what? Fifth Element just got a twist...

Nisa K.

I'm sorry about that. Patreon isn't letting me edit my previous comment. Anyways, are you using any mods that alter the timescale of the game? I'm wondering if there could be some other mod conflicting with mine. Are you using SoL?

Nisa K.

Hey Fizz! I wonder what may be going wrong. I'd hate for anyone to have to resort to manually paying daily.... Go to your The Sims 4/Mods folder and search for all files with the name 'nisa' in it. If you see any duplicates then delete my mod entirely and reinstall the latest update. Another possibility is that maybe you updated the scripts but not the package file. Just to make sure, maybe try reinstalling my mod anyways. Another possibility is perhaps some conflict with another mod :thinking:

Fizz

I have just started using this update, however I am noticing that the debt is not actually paid at midnight (or ever it seems). It does keep accumulating though. Is there a way to pay it manually?

Nisa K.

Thank you for your support Valornim! I'm glad to hear you are as excited about them as I am. One of the things I kept in mind while planning out my interpretation of succubi was just the unbelievable wide variance on what a succubus is from interpretation too interpretation. I'm glad you made a connection with vampires. Many have theorized a connection between the two creatures with some writers even calling vampires 'sfw succubi.' You'll see this connection explored more when my succubi come out but I think it will be in an unexpected way so I don't want to talk more about it until after release. Anywho, back on topic, there is such a wide interpretation for how succubi feed. There are pretty succubi, human looking succubi, ugly succubi that use charms to trick their prey, just ugly succubi, etc. That's why I wanted an occult form system so badly for succubi, there are just too many variations on what people think a succubi should look like to go with just one. Likewise for feeding. While most stories about succubi have the encounter ultimately lead to some form of death (but maybe not evertime), some stories have them almost completely harmless only leading to a increased chance of a heart attack while sleeping with them while other stories don't involve sex at all. Rather they use sex to lure prey in and then just kill them. I guess what I'm trying to say is, in my personal opinion, succubi have such a wide variance in how they are portrayed in stories, I don't think there is definitive authoritative source to draw from. The only thing that links most succubi together (but interestingly not all) is their connected to sexual desire in some way. Instead of picking one author's interpretation of succubi for the basis of my mod, I'm making my own interpretation of succubi which is inspired by many stories. Still, I want people to be able to play the succubi they envision, and while this can't always be achieved I try to make it at least achievable with a few cheats or with succubi powers to modify how you play your succubus. One thing I've definitively decided on, however, is succubi literally feeding off the life energy AND sexual energy of other sims. Life energy meaning the take some of their partners life span (but not all in one go, don't worry) inorder to maintain their youth, sexual energy to power their perverse magics. There will be ways to block taking life energy from sims while the succubus will still be able to harvest sexual energy. As for plasma packs, that was my original intention behind the cup o cum :D It'll be used here to restore some motives and their depravity (their sexual magic motive). Let me know if you have any further questions! I'm sorry in advance for any grammar mistakes, writing this in Patreon's lil text box was not enjoyable!

Valornim

I have questions about succubi. I have read the previous answers that you have already given on previous posts, and a few questions remain. You are going to rely on the vampire / mermaids system to have a double appearance, and as I understand it, the succubus will feed on its victims, much like the vampire. A succubus does not normally kill its prey. She sleeps with him to drink his vitality, not his life. Couldn't you rather make the succubus drink the Sims Entertainment need? Another idea that I have not seen, vampires have plasma packs to quench their thirst. Could you not take this object, modify it a little and rename it in Lust packs to satiate the succubus?

Nisa K.

Hey Naomi! Thank you for your kind words and support, make your debt sim your active sim and then use the cheat command 'nisa.undebt' without quotes. This should remove your sim's debt then you will free to make them a prostitute the normal way! Let me know if you have any further questions!

Naomi Rose

Hey thanks i love your mod just i have one problem, i set my sim a debt of 0 to another sim how can i turn this off ? I want to make her a normal prostitute

ItsMissCheekie

Thanks so much for explaining 😊

Nisa K.

Hey Otta & Dae!!!! Thank you for your support, as BL4DE accurately points out, my succubus occult is not like other CC occult states. Most CC occult states are 'pseudo' occults with traits at their core. This is sufficient for most CC occults that don't need access to occulf form data. However, my succubi are true-occults meaning that occult mixing is not officially supported by me or maxis. There are cheaty ways to try to get around this but it's not recommended. All that being said, while I will have a update focusing on succubi reproduction (where succubi will create more succubi) I am currently toying with the idea of adding a hybrid succubi occult state which functions like pseudo occults and has reduced or different functionality than full succubi. There is a lot of lore out there covering hybrid succubi and it may be fun to do. But making a hybrid succubi state is all very up in the air, no eta yet and still doing research on it to decide how I'd want to go about it.

Nisa K.

Better Exceptions likes to wrongly blame my mod for things. If you can, please send me the raw LE either on discord or via using a free, no account needed service such as pastebin.com. Simply paste the raw LE in, hit the 'create a new paste' button and then copy and paste the URL here for the page it generates.

Nisa K.

It's definitely not for everyone, it's for people that want a bit more of a challenge in their game, literally :D When I first made my mod a player named Buntschwinge made a gameplay challenge (where one self imposes rules and a failure state to make playing the sims more challenging, sorta like the sims version of nuzlocke if you are familiar with pokemon) which involved my mod, a part of the challenge involved being poor and having to pay off a debt to get out of your averse situation. I was so impressed that I made a debt system to support his challenge. But it can be used to simulate more gameplay scenarios that involve debt if you wish. Also, as a fan of Animal Crossing, debt bondage is kinda fun too me (atleast the not inescapable irl kind, but gameplay kind). But it's not for everyone and that's okay, my mod has quite a few types of fetishes. I don't expect everyone to love every feature. Don't hesitate if you have any further questions and thank you for your support!

Rachel

Thanks for the update! This looks awesome!

ItsMissCheekie

hello! thanks for the update. Is there any place where i could get a better understanding of what the debt system really is? Or why i would want to use it? im still kind of struggling with the concept

Cloudy Days

oooooooo tentacles. :D fun times ahead. Thanks for your amazing, hard and dedicated work.

BL4DE

Yes and No. Thing is that technically occult states are not "diseases" for sims but completely new states for sims. With cheats/hacks it is possibly to make vampire-spellcaster hybrids for instance with a spellbook but no access to the vampire perk tree anymore. But AFAIK no hybrid that involves the mermaid state in any form. While most likely the succubus behaves similar to vampires (because they suck cum instead of blood) it can be possible with cheats as well but don't hold your breath.

Karma

Curious question about the Succubi Occult idk if anyone has ever asked but will there be a way to make a hybrid with being a succubi by chance? And thankies for the update I really enjoy your work.

Kira

Freakin' amazing work

Hi! I am receiving a Better Exceptions report claiming the script is broken. It specifically pointed out "miscarriage_override"or something in that nature.