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Chapter 330: Absent Autocrat and Unenthusiastic Executive

🕑 Added 2024-11-03 13:42:12 +0000 UTC

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андрей ткач

Thanks for the chapter!

андрей ткач

lol

nugitoBambino

Love it! Yeah, your reasoning makes perfect sense. I'm now sorta curious on the base mechisms behind underlords that this seems to improve, but that's an aside lol :)

nugitoBambino

Ah gotcha! My headcanon was that enlightenment is a sliding scale / has ranks and stacking those chances would create an OP level of enlightenment, so I utilized it frequently in theory-crafting. But yeah, if it's a binary state then it makes sense to limit those. Might I suggest a replacement of "[X-Modifier] increase the connection between you and those that rule in your name" - makes sense thematically for this oath that Aalam would get a boost to empowering his 'system' which would involve putting the right people in charge in many cases. re: Mila's Oath. Yes! I didn't spend as much time obsessing over this one but on the first read last week my intuition liked it, and my opinion hasn't changed looking at it more closely now. I think there are interesting constraints on it as Mila would technically be considered the one with a controlling interest in organizations where she's using her trickster abilities to replace a dead leader, and balancing the need to meddle and improve while maintaining her disguise I think is quite interesting for her (even if that only remains a theoretical idea instead of a plot point). From a 'muchkin gamer' perspective it's not a fantastic oath given that constraint being at odds with her Trickster role, but that's what makes me like it narratively: it feels true to Mila even if the oath isn't the exact perfect one she would have wanted herself to get (which harkens back to when we first learned about oaths and the choice to not tell most youngsters to keep them uninfluenced). With Aalam, I'm much less concerned about the oaths being 'too perfect' for his build in terms of contraints, because it can be read as Aalam having an 'intrinsic character trait' of optimization (a combination of his 'god-touched' mentality, and traits we saw early novel in the novel) and him generally being pretty in-tune with himself as a well self-actualized individual. It's also already a major plot point that Aalam's intrinsic nature is something that isn't particularly contradictory or problematic (with his Oath of the Villain's Clean Vengeance now in place) as we saw in his Id states, so giving him pretty light constraints, or things that are natural for him to do regardless, makes sense to me. Whereas, for Mila, we've seen a lot of personal contradiction (which is completely normal but is relevant here), and her oaths containing things that she doesn't love, but she would agree are deeply true to her character, works quite well for me.

Thirteen Life Legion

Okay. I updated the oath to more what I think it should be. (And also moved the stat bonuses to Aalam's Oath of the Acceptant God Touched.) Aalam likes systems, but that's actually more of a Mila thing than a him thing. When it comes to ruling, Aalam, in my mind at least, is more hands off than that. He puts someone in charge he trusts, monitors that person a bit to know if he should replace them, and otherwise is almost completely hands off. A big part of how he rules, however, is being available to fix problems only he can. Need a new magical AI to help run and monitor a universe, the manager of said universe can ask Aalam to make one. Don't want people killing each other in a universe for primal energy, ask Aalam to come up with an alternative and receive the plans for a primal energy farm capable of producing enough primal energy stones that they can act as the universe's currency. Aalam has a huge influence on his Territory, but it is less about automation and more about invention.

Thirteen Life Legion

The word absolute is definitely wrong. It should probably be ultimate instead. And you make a good point on how Aalam actually operates. (This is also my least favorite of Aalam's oaths.) And, I will admit, your oath here is probably better. Let me think for a bit and come up with something better, probably leaning into your design. I just don't want to have another oath that gives him enlightenment chances. Too many of those are kind of useless. Does Mila's seem good to you?

nugitoBambino

Ok, I've been thinking about this on and off all week, and I gotta say I don't love Aalam's oath here. I don't disagree with any of the individual pieces as they pertain to Aalam (he neither wants to lead but is ultimately responsible for a bunch of land/people and is the strongest territory-owner ever seen for his rank), but taken together they seem a bit weird to him. I.e. the limitations for this 'absent autocrat oath' include an inability to 'give up absolute power' which makes it sound like he can't give any power up to 'under lords' like Diana, and 'spend time dealing with people' seems like he just decided to abdicate responsibility to not deal with it. I'm sure that's not how it's intended, but it's how it reads to me and feels counter-intuitive to making a big realization about yourself to power the oath, as these aspects of Aalam feel rather superficial. I brainstormed a couple of ideas on the train this week, and here is an alternate I think could work better: "oath of the systematic sovereign: You are the ultimate leader of a large territory and desire to see it well run, but you handle systems and automation far better than people and minutia and you know it. Benefits: (I) boost noble skills (ii) increase territory control (iii) successfully implementing automated systems that make your territory run more efficiently without your oversight has a slight chance to cause enlightenment. Limitations: dealing with people or situations repeatedly in regards to your territory when you could have developed a systemic approach to handle the problem will shackle your soul." Mind you, I don't think this is the only Oath or kind of oath that would deal with Aalam / offer noble category bonuses. Hell, I came up with a whole headcanon of like 4 noble-category oaths and the use of the spirit smith skill to create city spirits (my commute is like an hour each way on the train and I got way too into this on Wednesday morning lmao). But primarily, I would love to see the oaths used as a vehicle for character development since that's what they seem to be lore-wise, and what we've already seen from "acceptant god-touched" and where Mila's arc seems to be heading. "Absent Autocrat" feels like Aalam has chosen to settle as a mid-to-low-end leader instead of leveraging his unique advantages to manage his territory in a way that works for him.

Anonymonous

The only thing Mila fears is an honest discussion of her feelings. It's oath worthy at this point


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