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EDITED - Ben-Hur (1959)

🕑 Added 2024-12-31 12:51:44 +0000 UTC

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Paul D

I paused it as Josh was saying the word "complaint" and yes, yes I do know what your biggest complaint is because it is no doubt the same as mine. There wasn't a Drusilla scene so we can know that Ben Hur had at least one happy night somewhere along the way.

Darren Chapman

Thanks for the clarification. The point of my post was mostly concerning how much pop culture and the era that you were born in can greatly effect a person's perception of any form of media. I've seen criticism in the past of both Josh and Alex's "takes" on older movies. We are all individuals in the end.

captveg

The Wizard of Oz is a classic that did some clever things, but it introduced neither of those things to cinema. Synchronized sound was introduced with the film Don Juan and other various short subjects in 1926, while the first synchronized sound film with scenes of dialogue was The Jazz Singer in 1927. The first film using color film stock of any kind (using a simpler two-color process) was the UK film With Our King and Queen Through India in 1912. Two-color Technicolor arrived in 1917 with The Gulf Between, while 3-strip Technicolor arrived with the Disney animated short Flowers and Trees in 1932. The first 3-strip Technicolor feature was Becky Sharp in 1935.

Darren Chapman

The world has changed a great deal since 1959. Films like this were still a major cultural event, and it’s fascinating to think that only 20 years earlier, The Wizard of Oz had introduced synchronised sound and colour to cinema. You’ve both grown up in a completely different era, shaped by modern TV, films, and pop culture. In the end, you shared your genuine thoughts and feelings about the movie, and that’s all anyone could ask for 👍

Steve the greeeen hand

I completely take it back lol

ShazD

Are you really excited to watch Ben Hur along with two people utterly unenthused by it 😂

Carl Peterson

Some things. Jesus never becomes the Holy Spirit. He is always the Son of God or second person of the Trinity and not the third. Second having leprosy was horrible back then. Think of how people treated those that got AIDS and multiply that by 100. They were shunned and could not live with others who were healthy. Any person coming close to a leper would be unclean and have to go do ceremonial washings. Finally, Roman men without heirs would adopt grown men, sometimes slaves to become their heir. It was a common practice. They did not adopt kids usually it was adults who were adopted. So many great scenes with often real effects and real crowds. No way that movie is made today like that. Too expensive. So influential also. Just think of the pod race from Phantom Menance. I like these old movies because they are often deeper or do not play off just special effects or shock value. They are usually trying to say more. The point in Ben Hur is Judah’s spiritual life. He has to get beyond the revenge to something more. He has to get past his hatred.

Carl Peterson

No. They just do not understand where the climax was or the point. But I think it also shows how many today get bored way too easily. We are in an over sensationalized age. They probably should not see Lawrence of Arabia. Another great film but they will have a hard time getting it.

Timothy Nikiforovs

There could be some financial motivations changing over time. I don't think there were as many releases a year back then, so maybe it was easier to get more viewings by just playing the same movie in multiple auditoriums, and having the intermission helps the theatres by letting people go and top up on snacks. Also I'm guessing, but maybe going to the movies was a less common thing and people didn't mind making a day of it. But with so many movies competing today for screens, studios push for tighter runtimes to get as many viewings in each day as they can.

Badger

Thanks guys-introduced me to a movie I had never seen. Hey, we all got through it. Too bad you don't have time for a Charlton Heston deep dive-there was a time he was in everything and the Harrison Ford of his time- Religious movie - The Ten Commandments Disaster Movies - Earthquake, Airport 1975 War Movies - Midway, Gray Lady Down Sci Fi Movies-The Omega Man, Planet of the Apes, Soylent Green This guy pee'd testosterone and turpentine and was 'The Man' for many years...

Steve the greeeen hand

I’ve actually never seen this one .. Im excited

Evan Guthrie

I think you're probably right, they had a lot of usable film so they added it to the movie. I think all the well-structured, formula perfect films where the movie ends soon after the climax has spoiled our brains and made them expect an ending much sooner. I wonder if people felt the same way back when this came out.