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BG - Force Breasts on every Sim
🕑 Added 2020-05-24 19:19:01 +0000 UTCAs you know, I don't do sex mods... and this is not a sex mod technically... this is born from my hate for the gender update and how crappy I think it was...
This mod requires the XML INJECTOR as usual
SHORT DESCRIPTION: this allows to add the Maxis trait trait_Breasts_ForceOn and remove it on every sim without using the cheats, which gives the Sim boobs regardless of gender . It may still require Testingcheats on.
LONG DESCRIPTION:
To explain why I did this mod, I have 3 version of Morgyn:
Morgyn 1 - A full female version with a custom body shape I made from the full female body, using the complete flat chest sliders you can find on LOVERSLAB .
Problem with this: the game recognizes him as a female and he uses the females specific animations like the standing idle and default walkstyle.
Morgyn 2 - A male version with a female body shape and the above custom sliders (and I made this mod just to use them on a male sims)
Morgyn 3 - The Maxis version of Morgyn
I have a number of problems with Maxis Morgyn... I'm used to track every change and difference in my body, and Morgyn's body, as much as Maxis tried, doesn't look like a realistic FtM body to me... I like my body as it is after the therapy and cannot really use the gender update as it is knowing all the problems with it.
So, here are the problems I have with Morgyn's body (Customized Male frame)
Also the shoulders and legs shape are different, but that's something that can be masked by muscles. The torso proportion CANNOT. In the face:
Now, the problem using the female shape in male sims: every piece of masculine clothing, Maxis or CC, looks like crap. Female clothing in most cases have this weird problem... you put them on a male Sim with female shape and you get:
Something that doesn't happen with the sliders:
this allows at least to use the more gender neutral female clothes to dress the Sim, and he looks like a male:
it also allows to use ALL the female clothes and the male clothes that don't look too bad, and they don't look weird (the female one in particular), in general, allows to have a more androgynous sim:
HOW IT WORKS:
Click on your Sim and select Force Breasts On. Click again and select Force Breasts Off to remove the hidden trait.
Go in CAS full edit mode and he'll have the boobs you can remove with the sliders HERE
IMPORTANT NOTE: with the sliders, there is a tattoo overly you need to use to remove the breasts completely. This overly is not enabled for males, so I'll add my modified version, enabled for males. Replace the one that comes with the original mod. If upon applying the overly, your sim upper body disappear, switch to another Sim in the household and back to your Sim. I can't do any better than this.
IF SOMEONE IS ABLE TO DO A MORE APPROPRIATE OVERLY JUST FOR THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE, FEEL FREE TO MESSAGE ME.
I think this method can be used to remove the weird breast shape male sims with a male body frame get from females clothes, too... but I didn't test it.
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UPDATE:
28/05
Patch Update - Renamed
ALTERNATIVE DOWNLOAD: DRIVE
Comments
Zero_
I resolved using an heavy customized female frame for MtF too, just because of the jawline (and the clothing issue... female clothes on male frame don't look better than the opposite). Reducing it is something surgery can do... it sucks having such crappy gender options though.
Nush
Really grateful to you for all the work you have done, and on addressing this also. I gave up trying to play around with the custom gender options because none of them fit what I was trying to do, either. And the built-in boobs on the catering uniform are just cringe-inducing on a male Sim. I suppose they thought it could pass for pecs, but NOPE. Everyone in the catering business has a rack, at least on the job! I also want to be able to make a female Sim with a fully masculine frame, without having a fully masculine jawline, low set of the jaw and face compared to the neck and no ability to change it meaningfully, etc.
Zero_
Then it's the hidden trait causing it, but I'm not getting the bra on males with feminine frame.
Karen
Okay, I think I might be missing something - the mod works great, and so do the sliders, but my sims all of a sudden have the pink bra on when they were previously topless. Can you think of any reason why this might happen? I thought maybe a conflict with cmar's anatomy mods, but I tested without the female top remover and that didn't make a difference UPDATE: Force Breasts Off doesn't just remove the hidden trait, it allows you to get rid of the pink bra top as well!
omglaserspewpew
I should add that Simdulgence has a male chest for females available that might be of interest, but that requires WW and I don't think it resolves the clothing issue.
omglaserspewpew
I feel a little confused about whether the sculpts and the force breast command is needed. I created a new male sim with a feminine frame, masculine clothing preference, no becoming or making pregnant, and he has male genitalia (I use WW, not sure what the vanilla options are). With your modified Flat Chest overlay I don't need either the sculpt or the force breasts command in CAS to have a sim that resembles the Morgyn in the centre. Am I misunderstanding something? They seem to be needed if I set the overall gender (at the top) as female, but I think that's what you're trying to avoid (see description of Morgyn 1). I do notice that he has an adam's apple but I don't know if that's realistic for FTM, I'll have to look that up. :)
Zero_
Yep... It's because I forgot to point out that the xml injector is required. I'll update the post later. Meanwhile you can get the injector by following the link to it from another post like the vampire magic one.
sunnyspider
Hi, do you know any reasons why this mod might not work? The option just doesn't appear when I click on sim :<
Zero_
I think you can intend him as you wish... In order to investigate how maxis intended him, I went looking for the origins of his name, it's a Welsh female given name (a variation of Morgan) but it was used for males too in the past... So even there it's ambiguous. So I think maxis intended him like that: ambiguous.
Danna McPheron
This is fantastic! I have a FtM Sim with the weird boob and chest issues. This definitely will fix the problem. I'm curious about something. Isn't Morgyn a male Sim with a Feminine appearance? When I examined him in CAS, he has the male body frame rather than the female body frame which would obviously set him apart from the rest of the male Sims. There is a townie I mistook for a teen girl because of one shirt from Island Living. Shirts often got me confused when I spot townies passing by my Sims' homes.
Zero_
I'm glad you enjoy it! Most of my mods are based on stories, mine or from others, so I'm glad they're useful to make the game more interesting!
Lael
I love it ^-^ since I started 'to diversify my sims creating transgender sims
Alex Vlogs
hi zero!!! i just wanted to tell you how much i love your vampires can kill mod!!! it’s SO good for making stories!! a vampire made my sim his cattle but his sister who is a witch saved him when she found out and she killed the vampire with lighting(untamed magic is untamed). You are the best occult modder ever if not the best modder in general!!
Zero_
it's a bit of a pain in the ass but you have to do it only once... I tried and the trait sticks.
Angel
Omg I feel like crying 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I use a lot of the gender customization and this is something that has been haunting me since they added it!! One of my favorite sims is female to male and can barely wear anything that looks decent!! I can't wait to try this!!!😭😭😭😭
Tonic
You have every right to be angry! Though being angry caused for this amazing outcome of you making this mod. I just wished Maxis didn’t make the change gender as an after thought, even though I’ve been wanting something like that since Sims 2. :/
Zero_
I never played with the gender update because I got angry after the first time I tried and stayed angry until now. But I got extremely frustrated with Morgyn and Lia both, so I had to fix them.
Tonic
Oh gosh, Yes!! Thank you so much for making this! I mainly play non-binary or transitioning/transitioned characters and the chest area is extremely wonky on my flatter chested transitioned sims ( it looks pinched and all tops look horrible.) Can’t wait try this when I get home!!
Zero_
Some clothes still retain the problem (a bit less noticeable) but most of them don't... At least enables to use more of them than by maxis default. We need a better overly for male Sims though, I hope someone can step in and do it.
Zero_
I think the concept had to be introduced right at the beginning of the game and not after, so to build on it... like this seems like an afterthought and I guess they have limitations due to the way the Sims mesh is done... but I think the animations at least could be separated with another option in cas... I just don't think we'll see it, ever.
MuffinsDaAlien
I'll test out your mod later today. I'm ready for my cross dressing male Sims to no longer grow boobs out of nowhere, lol!
MuffinsDaAlien
The concept of removing gender limitations is great for customization. The developers just had to go and half ass it which is the problem. I'm glad clothes are not locked anymore, but why they had have to screw up how the breasts function in regards to clothes?!? Also they could totally make walking and idle animations separate. Too bad they seem to not care about that; last new walking animation was Vampire pack
Zero_
Yeah I think they did a very crappy job just to appeal the LGBT community... I mean, why in the fucking world I cannot have a female sim with a female shape, that walks and moves (standing idle) like a male and the opposite? Why does that need to be tied to the gender setting in CAS?!
MuffinsDaAlien
This is amazing! As much as I try to be understanding with the developers, I think they dropped the ball with the gender update. It feels they kind of rushed it in with out thought just so they could nab those "progressive" points. Not only did you fixed it, but you also have given trans the proper representation they need. Thank you!
Jade Austin
I love it
