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Death After Death PLUS 223-225

🕑 Added 2025-03-10 13:58:00 +0000 UTC

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D. Winchester

Fair. I feel like this one has more consequences than some of the others. If I had the basilisk scene to do over, I would have made that more impactful, especially in the immediate years that follow. I will do what I can in the eventual rewrite.

Çağrı Ağca

I really like the parts of the story where Simon is stuck in infinity and uncertainty, but I believe that these arcs generally do not result in enough character development... Who has been stuck in a stone heap for 70 years and not develope some mental illness? As an author, I think there are some character development gaps in this issue. But other than that, it's the first book that made me get a patreon, I love the story and keep up the good work.

D. Winchester

All good points. I accept that. Not a popular decision, and I dont take the criticism too personally. Just trying to figure out how I could have done a better job, you know? Thank you for the comment!

mark harrell

Author-man, I think part of the blow-back is Simon hasn't truly lost his agency in a real way for a long time. Slavery arcs only cause more friction the longer into a story they appear in. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. But at this point in the work, anything that traps Simon as a lackey or otherwise indentured will cause frustration from the readers. I doubt there's any way you could have had this play out that wouldn't have gotten people mad and have them fine tooth-comb Simon's choices and the plot looking for why it was a bad call. I'd take it as you have a passionate reader base that is invested in your characters. Try not to take the criticism as anything other than people wanting the work to be the best it can be (even the unconstructive posts can be insight as an author into what parts of your demographic dislike).

GrinBean

Honestly I thought that this arc would be a kind of berserker chapter where he in this half crazed state slaughters everyone in the castle and then kills himself trying to devour incoming army or any other obstacle he stumbles onto. But it turned out even more interestingly. Regarding Runes plothole I think there might be several explanations that might fit. Remember a legend how you need to invite the vampire/undead to your home for him to enter? Maybe it's something like that but with runes, like runes or any inscription is a way of applying/writing rules, and if vampires weakness are rules, maybe he can't write runes himself because well he's a vampire. Or maybe since runes seem to be invented/spread by hell, vampires can't use runes since hell/demons don't want them to (maybe they view it as cheating?) since when you use runes you sacrifice yours/someone else's energy but vampires don't have their own energy to begin with. Or maybe he simply didn't have enough life force to power any serious runes? Or he didn't want Freya to learn those by any chance? Could be any of those reasons. TFTC

Orion Dye

To be clear, I have no problems with Freya being a vampire or with Simon spending an eternity in coffin hell. If that’s where you wanna take the story then I have no problems with it. What I do have a problem with is the methods you chose in order to go in that direction feel forced rather than happening organically. Simon has been through two other hellish experiences before, but neither one of those seemed artificial. He spent time as a zombie because he was a reckless idiot who got careless. that makes sense for the Simon of that time. He spent time as a statue because he underestimated what the pet could throw at him. He had no idea about the basilisk or its abilities and got caught unprepared. Again makes perfect sense for that Simon. This Simon, however, has been through those two experiences already. He’s older and he’s wiser. He knows more magic than those other two Simons. Further, he knows what vampires are and what they’re capable of. He knows they can trap you. And that’s exactly what happened. So we’re dealing with Simon who has already experienced multiple hells, who knows his enemy, and who got caught once already buy them. At that point having him act like a reckless idiot is completely out of character. Simon has never once shown to be the person who’s not learned his lesson after the first time. If you want him to be in that coffin, you need to step up as an author to write it so that the Simon, your readers know, the one who’s been through two hells already, the one who doesn’t make the same mistake twice, the one who already has intimate knowledge of who his enemies are and what they can do, would actually end up in a coffin in a way that’s faithful to his existing character. Right now it doesn’t feel like it is.

SevereMaisJuste

It might be because, as he becomes more aware of the intricacies of time paradoxes and becomes more and more aware that "fixing" a situation sometimes results in wildly unpredictable and sometimes much worse outcomes, he swears to himself never to change his own past, just like he would never willingly affect his own mind with magic. That does not explain the fact that Evil Simon *did* interact with his own past self, although now that this loop is in place, taking the decision to not change his own past will basically ensure that it remains in place, at least if the decision is taken between now and Evil Simon time. Besides, looking back to it, the intervention of Evil Simon on the volcano did lead to some very happy and fulfilling years, and also to his years of instruction among the white cloaks iirc? He started to realize with Freya that seemingly good actions could have very damaging consequences, but the reverse can be true too. All in all, there might be a very, very important lesson in his current life that future Simon did absolutely not wish to risk undoing. That's the feeling I get from his message to his past self.

D. Winchester

The oldest book I have read an enjoyed besides the classics (Shakespeare, Dickens, Twain, etc) is called The Earth Abides. It's basically the world's first disaster novel and holds up quite well. It also takes place over multiple generations. Horror stories by Matheson (I am Legend, Chucky) are also from the 1920s and shockingly modern. As to grandchildren... I have no comment, though it's certainly an interesting prediction. We shall see what becomes of it.

Bookworm bibliophile

So simon most likely is a grand grandfather and father of hundreds of people. This would honestly add a new dimension to your story at least in this level. Man I do like you story. Do you read any classic books like before 1950 or 1900? Or some book that takes about elderly person with many grandchildren

D. Winchester

The rune thing is something that someone else pointed out too, and I agree that constitutes a minor plot hole right now. It's something Simon should try, even if it doesn't succeed. This was a failure on the part of the writer, not the character, and something I would probably add to his capture in the first imprisonment sequence. RE: Freya, and killing himself this is another good point i will think about.

Daniel

@Nexium I don't think the author's response was whiny, that's a really uncharitable take. Also, for what it's worth, using "my dude" like that is incredibly condescending. Not a great way to encourage people to take your criticism seriously.

Geoff

Ultimately though, it is just the start of an arc among many arcs, and if we're reading up to here, we've been having a good time so far, so even if one arc has some jank, it's not going to make any of us quit reading lol, every author's allowed a few weaker releases and some mess up entire books before the going gets good again 👍

Geoff

I think it's more the amount of times Simon could have escaped but something got in his way at the last second or he didn't rationally consider it. The fight to get into the castle ending right at the last second to stab Freya (what are the chances of that timing?), how after healing his fingers wrong he should have known this loop was over and self-terminated but chose to still fight Freya, how he didn't kill himself immediately on his first escape, how he showed up to the castle without a backup explosive collar when he can shape metal in seconds, how he isn't trying to stake himself right this moment, ect. One or two events, readers can shrug and read over because they know the author's trying to steer the ship somewhere specific, but there's been too many weird moves here. I think a few sentences could be added in post-production to either lampshade these or add more thinking to his plans and ways his enemies foiled them by another reason than pure luck.

Daniel

I still love the story, but I do think the constraints on Simon in this arc need to be thought through a little bit more. Why couldn't he write runes, or come up with/attempt *something* even given that he doesn't have access to much power? Maybe better to simply make all magic completely impossible for him as a vampire. Unless/until he discovers something deeper about how magic works. Also, there needs to be a better reason why he didn't instantly kill himself the moment he had the opportunity. A misplaced sense of nobility by protecting the girls makes sense for a much "younger" Simon. But this Simon has lived well over a century by this point (multiple centuries?) It seemed incredibly poorly thought through on his part. I get that he may have been arrogant, considering himself far more powerful than nearly everything he could encounter, which is why he challenged Freya without much preparation. But the moment he knew that he had no ability to resist her after turning, and no way to invoke a word of power to kill himself, nothing else except a reset should have mattered. Especially since he had been trapped as a statue already for so long. He should still have some serious trauma around even the possibility of going through that again. I'm sure there's a way to rescue a more sensible reason why he couldn't just kill himself. Like maybe Freya had forbidden it. Or maybe Freya was aware of his "escape" the whole time, and was letting him think he had a chance, before yanking it away at the last minute. In any case, I think leaning on his arrogance getting him into the situation is acceptable, but continuing to make really bad decisions afterward seems out of character.

Nexium Vergo

It's not the idea of the conflict that's railroady, or even the result, it's the fact that things feel contrived to set Simon up for this, and it's mostly Simon simply forgetting and never thinking of ways out plus the inconsistent way magic somehow doesn't work when he's sucked up the lifeforce of a few guards, which should be enough power to fire off a greater word or two if what we know from the Transfer magic word is in any way a measure for how much life a person can give another. Also, when you read good constructive criticism, you shouldn't be whining about 'oh but at least this one narrative beat was really cool, you should be focusing on this coolness instead!' like, my dude, yeah it was cool. The issues really start cropping up AFTER that scene though, so it's irrelevant to the criticism.

Godzilla Gamer

The rune solution isn't as good as we think since just like normal magic you still require life force and very exact lines for them to work. And with simon's state he likey is unable to muster the energy to jump start one even with using a life transfer rune.

Nexium Vergo

I think the major issue here is that he ate like, 3 guards, and yet wasn't able to form a single word of power afterword? That's pretty dang inconsistent with that logic.

Bing Lun

True that it may come across as too convenient, but I think it can be a useful plot device to address the time and reality warping shinanigans that this world is locked in. Especially after the dragon reality hopping eps, I think the readers (me) is dying to understand the fundamental rules and laws of the fabric of the world.

D. Winchester

I would call this the Bill and Ted solution. While totally doable, it can come across as "too convenient" to the audience. In this case, it didn't even have to be Simon. His evil twin could have freed him, or some deus ex third party hired by either.

Patryk Rys

AAA yea, I get it.

D. Winchester

I hear you, and I'll take another look at the scene, but aren't you going to give me at least a little credit for using the girls to escape a no win situation? I thought that was awesome. Im sorry it came across as railroading. I really did set all this up when he "saved" Freya from being a zombie ages ago.

D. Winchester

The idea was that he could use the small amounts of lifeforce he'd ingested after he fed. When he was in his cell, refusing to eat he had nothing to power even the weakest amounts of magic with. I'm sorry if that didn't come across. I was essentially having him flick the flint of an empty lighter instead of using his usual flamethrower.

Patryk Rys

My guess is he haven't thought about it. I mean, If you would not point it out I would not thought about it too.

Patryk Rys

Wait, how does he uses words of power anyway? Last chapter he was not able to use magic at all because... duh... hes undead so no soul/life force, right? Did I missed something or that was retconned?

Orion Dye

Look, I understand what you wanted to do here. But the way you pushed it through is so forceful and in organic to the rest of the story that it just came across as railroading. If you want Simon to be imprisoned, then you need to have a plausible reason why he can’t use magic. You have established no rules that prevent him from writing runes on the coffin and taking the energy from something else like heat or from the life of the people who were bricking him up. He just didn’t think of it doesn’t cut it, he’s had nothing but time and was plenty motivated to escape or kill himself. Sooner or later he would’ve thought of it. He knows how to do that because he’s done it before at the white cloak base. If you want him to be trapped somewhere, make it clear his hands are completely restricted or else clearly state the rules of magic such that it is self evident that he can’t do that. Also, the way that Freya appeared out of nowhere to stop him right as he tried to commit suicide really comes across as dues ex machina. A more organic way of doing that was having Simon convinced that now he had fed, he could match Freya and then having him actually face her rather than having her suddenly appear out of nowhere to stop him at the last minute.

Bing Lun

Honestly why wouldn't Simon make a resolution in his current level to save himself in a future level, and then it will eventually happen? Promise himself he will save himself -> In the future level Simon does that -> current Simon that is saved will die, reset and then be the Simon that saves old Simon Okay but tftc it was fun :)

tuli

wasnt apathetic though last interaction they had our simon found sketches of freya in evil simons journal which immediately struck me as odd since it has been lifetimes since her for younger simon and he was more focused on his new love

Ellye28

Well, now I know why his alternate self was so apathetic towards Freya.


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