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James Wynn’s The Life of Malrubius, the First Severian, Timeline

🕑 Added 2021-04-12 00:23:15 +0000 UTC

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Fr. Anthony

Well, I do like it! It's hard to wrap my head around all the details you have given regarding the First Severian's life, but I do plan on thinking about it all. I like that you've incorporated a lot of little details regarding Silk!

I think I've arrived at how Silk is Malrubius. I've added a final section. What do you think?

Well, yes, but… how do we make it fit with everything else we know about Malrubius? To say that the Raja — after Short Sun — goes back in time to be a Master Torturer at the Matachin and dies there. That just doesn’t feel like the guy I know from that book. But what’s the motivation? Alternatively, maybe Malrubius was a clone of Typhon? But, why? And why wasn’t Sev thrown when he meets his mentor with an extra head on Mt Typhon? Wolfe threw me a curve by implying that the Raja was Malrubius in the text and saying Silk was a guild member in an interview — but I have no more clue what to do with it than anyone else. -J

Fr. Anthony

Wait, what about Silk as Malrubius?

Yeah. I confess that I still haven’t worked that out. That one seems to be a monkey wrench in everybody’s theory.

Dunstan Thorn

Aw raspberries. I finished Short Sun recently and there’s that bit near the end about whose bird Oreb is that’s....inconclusive

Now you’re thinking! That’s the way to approach this book, I think. Alas, at the end of chapter 2 of Shadow, Roche makes a definite acknowledgment of Malrubius. Also, I think an acquastor requires an original person (who I think perhaps must be dead). - James

Dunstan Thorn

I’m starting to doubt that that ever was a “Master Malrubius” at the guild—irrespective of whether he was a version of Severian, he was an eidolon who Sev knew as a child, for an indeterminate period. But there’s really no reason to think this apparition interacted with anyone BESIDES Severian, besides taking Sev at his word as a narrator that there was a Master Malrubius at the Matachin, now dead. And why would we do that?

Ha! I've noticed that I often come into this book as one for whom it is not his favorite Wolfe book. I say "I've finally fixed this passage so it makes comprehensible sense!" To which ardent lovers of this book respond "This book does not need fixing." ~ James

Dana F

Yeah I think this twinning business is just saying 'this is a linear-time interpretation of multiple timelines' in a fun way.

Dana F

I really like this. I don't think there's supposed to be a clear explanation because in my humblest of opinions, Wolfe was crossing many times and probabilities and there's no such this as a wrong answer. My own personal theory is the Claw represents the ideal timeline in some way but there have been infinite unsuccessful New Suns.

I don't see these models as incompatible. They seem to vary only in the number of Severians, and otherwise James's model is more or less a step-by-step execution of Snorlax's excellent summary. And when you examine them from the perspective of the work required from the author in each case, James's is actually simpler. Sure, you could argue that each time Severian's memory "betrays" him he is influenced by a different #Sev, but then why do the Severians collapse so easily into one? And does it matter? How would Wolfe even have tracked them all without an Excel spreadsheet? This model explains the theme and function of all the doublings and twinnings and double-takes: the sisters, the eidolons, the old master, the young apprentice, Ouen and Sev, Dorcas and Dorcas, maybe even Agilus. They are telling us something. Everyone is always also someone else---it's not just Severian and his multitudes who have other or past or twinned identities.

I fall more on the side of Snorlax. Bring The Flood.

God bless, snorlax. You will be destroyed with the rest. - James

snorlax

I find this all to be admirably good natured hogwash. :) To me it’s actually quite straightforward. Tzadkiel knows that in order to bring the new sun its necessary for someone to be able to pull the trigger and execute Urth. Pretty much no one can actually do this, so the hieros look for someone with the necessary qualifications. They find a bright boy with an eidetic memory who is being raised “to obey”. Unfortunately he drowns (the skull in UofNS). So the walkers keep tweaking things to help him until he can finally succeed in the roguelike speed run all the way to Yesod - to me, that is the test. It’s an almost open book test with all the help he can get. So there have been many Severians, each getting a bit farther, and then each failing in some way, until we hit our narrator. All the others timelines end in Master Ash’s world. As far as the manipulation from James’ First Severian - that’s also straightforward to me. It’s Aquastor Sev from UotNS - he becomes Apu Punchau, etc, he give the claw to his first apostles (the chilliarch and guards), and then continues to pop in and out of history as The Concilliator. Don’t get me wrong, unhinged speculation is a good time. But for me this stuff gets a little too close to “Varys is a merman” level theorycrafting.

(We didn't agree to post this! I thought we said we'd only be posting TRUE things! heh heh heh - Craig)


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