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Laying the Machinery of Detection Bare: James Macpherson, Ossian, and the Ballad Revival

🕑 Added 2025-08-17 18:20:44 +0000 UTC
Laying the Machinery of Detection Bare: James Macpherson, Ossian, and the Ballad Revival

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Ellen Harold

It sounds like Macpherson did a "creative reworking.," which is how popular culture moves along. I just wish I had listened to your show when I was doing a lot of reading about what once upon a time used to be called "Pre-Romanticism" -- until they decided that it was really a version of Romanticism. I can hardly remember anything about it now. I think people like Abraham Lincoln, though -- in his efforts at self-improvement -- studied Blair's Rhetoric. He and a lot of other people. Samuel Johnson's Dictionary, the first one of the English language, was undoubtedly his greatest work. I just wanted to say that Johnson (and most everybody else, sadly) thought the Scots were barbaric -- they *were* very poor, which is why so many of them migrated to Canada. Yet, Johnson was a Jacobite, that is, a supporter of the Catholic Pretender. In any case, the Scottish Enlightenment had the last laugh. BYW, Hugh Trevor Roper was the author of a wonderful essay called "The European witch-craze of the 16th and 17th centuries." (1969). At least at the time I read it (in my twenties) I thought it was really wonderful. Now I would like to read what he had to say about Ossian. https://archive.org/details/europeanwitchcra0000trev I am also glad to hear that he was dead on about William Stephenson, talk about fraudsters.

Ellen Harold

I am not any kind of expert but just wanted to add that i was surprised to learn that Scotland never had a the English Common law and still doesn’t., if I am not mistaken.

Kantbot

Thats really interesting about the Picts. Thanks for that. Im mostly looking at the state of contemporary knowledge to some of these debates, so im curious how the modern consensus has changed. Like i think aristotles edition of homer is now considered to not really have existed. It's interesting how these debates can in some ways be so inconclusive or continue to change

Dear Death

I think Homer's work is most interesting when understood as a dialogue between oral and literate worlds—while the dialogue is more latent in the 'Iliad,' emerging only in the form itself, it becomes explicit in the 'Odyssey,' whose theme of *nostos*, or return, expresses at the same time a desire to "return" to a *homophrosyne* between the cosmic mind and man's own mind, as it was , presumably, before the "interruption" of literacy. The weird detail at the end of the Odyssey which suggests that Odysseus must plant an oar in honor of Poseidon is the expression of this attempt to reestablish harmony between the worlds of the human and the divine. Norman Austin's 'Archery at the Dark of the Moon' is a fascinating analysis of this theme in the poem. I love Adorno and Horkheimer's analysis of the Polyphemus episode the 'Odyssey' in the 'Dialectic of Enlightenment' as well... Oliver Taplin's 'Homeric Soundings' is a good treatment of the 'Iliad.' Thank you for doing this series!

Ethan Hunt

Thank you for this great series! Just a minor correction: there's now both genetic and linguistic evidence that the Picts were Celtic, just a different branch than the Gaelic speakers. Also, regarding Stonehenge, the position of the stones wasn't *that* different in the 1800s, before the major 1950s reconstruction: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge#/media/File%3AStonehenge_1877.JPG And there's independent evidence of winter solstice alignment at Newgrange and Cairn T in Loughcrew, suggesting this was a more general feature of late Neolithic megaliths in the region.


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