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Chapter 586 - Not Noname

🕑 Added 2025-03-30 08:56:46 +0000 UTC

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Obie

“There are four beyonders I know: Kang Jiwon from the 10th round, some girl from Victoria's round, Leticia, Luna, and one more guy from Jean's round. Then we have 10 Hell difficulty attendees and I don't even bother counting the lower difficulties.” is this not 5 beyonders?

Tom Hammer

Can we all appreciate how well set up this is? Having Whitey go all out with Nat turning his mana into kinetic energy is awesome. And Nat’s avatar sounds like a powerhouse, fighting differently than Nat would it seems. It would ofc be cool if Nat did the challenge too, but having him fight himself wouldn’t be as cool as having Lathaniel fight his avatar. And Lat obliterating everything, a fun read.

Brotato

Big JJK energy in this chapter. Whitey is basically Sukuna taking over his host's body and just going on a Merry Little Rampage

Zaim İpek

The System is pretty strict about this kind of thing. Even Lioren's ghost of an existence was only made possible because several Rulers combined their authority to loosen the systems rules in a very limited way. Anything beyond that is impossible due to system limitations. If it wasn't for that, then perhaps Liss might be persuaded to copy his mind into a mana stone, but as it is, Lioren has no future. He is similar to Clonethaniel in that way. His existence has a system programmed hard limit. Maybe if all 14 Rulers agreed to combine their powers to make it happen, then it might be possible, but why would they? Most don't like eachother. Convincing them to cooperate to ressurect some random nobody who has been dead for probably over 100 years would be wild. TLDR: It's just not going to happen.

Madje Tobi Marc'Avent Tchona

I dunno. Lots people saying he's not the most "talented" in the sense of maybe him not being able to just get things without trying on first try and coasting by ( at least I think ), but in terms of "growth rate", so far he's been unmatched by any shown in the series, so like depending on how you want to think about talent, he might be the most talented or talent itself is not the most important thing you need to pull ahead in this world. Whatever that most important thing is, he has it more than any other attendee however. To me, that just sounds like talent though.

Josh Cothran

I mean, if he wants to get technical, Whitey is part of him. He’s simply using his complete arsenal

Sedjet

The way Ruby worded her answer to Nat read as a very strong hint that there is a way.

Sedjet

1, he's not skilled enough. 2, The rulers "patched" it.

Abhishek

Nat being an OG in this!! Legendary chap.

P K

Can someone explain to me why he can't put Whitney into a stone like lissandra did with herself in the early chapters? I think a reason was given but I can't recall

P K

True, but would kinda be fun if she is impressed with how is avatar fights, assuming the avatar is fighting with nats knowledge, that avatar is legit vaporisering beyonders Also I quietly wonder if Whitney wins vs. Nata avatar or if nat makes a mental implant like how lissandra did in the early floors to get Whitney at least a body for the rest of the tutorial

Kirin

Thank you for the chappie! Whitey having as much output as Nat does is scary, it also really hammers down the fact that Nat isn’t the most talented.

ramir

Earth’s tutorial just got blessed by the legend of whitey and why he’s so feared in beyond’s first floor. I still remember when whitey was first introduced and reading this chapter felt like a deja vu to that chapter. Lurker whitey really does fight the same as OG whitey lol just a couple of levels below. Everybody just freezing and not one fucker can do anything about it.

D Pryor

Oh yeah that's a good point. He's been weirdly jealous(totally not jealous)of that skill lol

Memelord Steambath

Multiple arcane items i imagine. He will probably find another broken method like how he did with the sand

Memelord Steambath

Would we be able to get a character encyclopedia? I might need it with all these new rounds

Josh Cothran

Knowing bitchsandra this won’t count as Nate winning the round because Whitey did all the work

Anthony Duenas

I think it's more like him copying [DAWN] manna radiation and pressure

RnR_ RnR

Just like ruby. One of the best things this book does right is not ignore side characters. Myrra, the rest of the group, hell even biscuit gets enough depth to make them feel like MC'S in their own story. The only one who hasn't been flushed out is savant, but from how the books have been going. We've got time.

RnR_ RnR

As for the pairing, I think envy will be leaning hard on the scales. For channeler, I think it's going to be even bigger. Like an artificial mana heart or something like that. With lily's help it would be easy for him.

Corac

God yes that's funny to think about

Maniac000

Finally all caught up on the story! Shame that there isn’t a way for Nat to cheat the system for Whitey. Was hoping Nat figured out something like if he got ahold of Whitey’s animated corpse maybe he could transfer the memories into it into a undead revenant or something! Before the tournament ends will Nat craft an Arcane item to sell on the auction? He’s gotta asset his dominance among the crafters!!

SirWins

W Lioren. A great character.

Ansordia

Well... yes also I wonder if the paired planets spys will be scared shitless when Nat and his gang return.. I doubt the system would be so unfair as to pair earth with a planet that has several champions. At most 1 champion maybe 1 champion and 1 adjacent champion candiate. I wonder how broken Nat and his gang will become by the end of the tutorial. Also any idea what he will gift Channeler as his item? I was thinking a power armour... but I don't think Channeler would have the nesearry amount of mana to move it... so maybe an "omnitool" that can change form to serve a desired purpose like shield or weapon?

Ansordia

If anything that might anger him instead of being apathic... which is 100% worse... best to leave him alone and if he asks for something to give it to him. Also if you touch anyone close to him... you best FUCKING pray that you can get him aswell before he knows what you did.

P K

Really vibes besides the very end, Nathaniel's avatar is straight up deleting beyond attendees, that goes hard af

P K

Oh they for sure will take notes after the fact, they're also recording with cameras remember, but I think what they care more about is getting as much info as to what goes on between the ears. I'm looking forward to them having to explain to earth that no, they can't just shoot him and be done with it, and show them this footage, while they try to explain how crazy what he's doing is

CJ Tamberella

Lathanial and Nathanial’s avatar are going to pubstomp 🤌🏾 Chefs kiss this was a pleasure to read. Can’t wait for a finally battle between them and Liss potentially 👀

RingoSeto

myra??? kindness you mean?...thats my theory anyway

Derek

Wouldn't Samuel's group pay more attention to the Avatars? It's been stated that the Avatars are sort of an example of what a tutorial entity can do without holding back at all and having only the goal of winning without personality or emotions. Sounds like a great baseline for recon for just powers at least. No hiding powers or holding back.

M Schweibold

Agree that this segment with Whitey is absolutely beautiful writing….can the space shuttle goodbye scene be any better - then, this….well done Cerim!❤️🫵

RnR_ RnR

Whitey going straight frank castle on everyone is peak. The pov change is well done and I feel like after this tournament roachsandra will declare him an absolute candidate. Not chapter related but the introduction of "players" into the world is so incredibly refreshing. The government has no idea what they are in for when hard level players get there let alone hell/beyond. They will be like living Gods.

Death56

I kinda wanna see whitey fight nats avatar

DocSmitty

Maybe used the difficulty change token?

SqrlyGrly

You think that beyond difficulty attendees just straight up disappearing is weak?

RJ

Roachthaniel Vs Roachsandra!

WhiteLeeopard

Seeing Whitey blitz Jean, who is the one Nat struggles the most with (due to being an anti mana strongman) was sweet. If Nat can keep even half of Whitey's kinetic knowledge he will be fully rounded out.

WhiteLeeopard

I absolutely LOVE this chapter. There is the great chance to see our main character from the other povs. The bittersweet of seeing Whitey's last hurrah. Also seeing that all those from other rounds who began this tournament believing themselves to be at the top are all realising that there is someone they can't catch up to. Samuel seems to be blind to one of the lessons of the tutorial: monsters are scary, but if you have no monsters on your side what do you do when the other side arrives with monsters of their own?

13L00D13ANE

I have a suspicion the avatar is using [Ley Line] to teleport them into a volcano or some shit

Al

Ugh I need more. MOREEEEE

Konrad Pagacz

This is very well written. Jumping through POVs in one chapter is always tricky - it's hard to make them sound different so it does not feel like it's just one person speaking. In this chapter the main differences come from what the POV character can perceive and you did this quite tidy - going from easy difficulty attendee to someone from Hell - a beyonder. These cognitive differences portrayed in writing made enough difference so it feels fresh and varied, at the same time achieving a sort of crescendo effect - attendees see more and more as we read through the chapter. I also love the narrative choice of not putting Nat at the helm this chapter - it makes sense considering he somehow transplanted Whiteys consciousness into his body - he took a backseat and it leaves the readers wondering what happened to him after the transformation - will he come back? How will he come back? We already know he will, but how? What happened to him? This is a lovely game that you play here with a reader. This also gave the readers an opportunity to see how others perceive what Nat is doing - how alien it is. I applaud the choice to SHOW this, not tell. Telling would be characters telling Nat that he looks like an alien, etc. Or character recollecting previous bouts. The way you did it in this chapter is different. You put into writing thoughts of other characters while in the middle of the fight, while facing Nat - feel his fighting prowess as an indifferent environmental cataclysm. As a tsunami of power people are helpless to defend against. This is good writing, my dude. The trick with these different POVs is not to overuse them - constant jumping, switching contexts can become tiresome for the reader. It's a balancing act and this is what makes writing an art, not only a craft. So far I missed the different POVs (except the ones from Earth - I actually avoid them actively or skip read through them because they don't bring anything to the main story - they can be safely edited out and nothing changes in Nat's journey), and I am happy you put them here. I also have to say I am impressed with the goodbye arc for Whitey. You have a peculiar way of writing about Nat's feelings in the sense you don't write almost any of them. There is anger - there is a lot of anger often, some anxiety, briefly, sometimes fear. I would expect sadness when Nat says his goodbyes to Whitey, but you didn't write about it. Instead we get this beautiful imagery of Nat and Whitey in space, nostalgic dialogue, the last hurrah. There is no sadness. I assume Nat hates good byes :) He doesn't do sadness well, maybe he is blind to this part of his emotional landscape - it is all possible. I love the choices you made there, it makes so much sense for a character that constantly struggles to connect with their emotions. All in all - nicely done with this chapter. i have just one minor gripe with it - I know it's hard to publish a novel piece-wise - it messes so much with pacing, but I have this gripe with this chapter. It starts strong and continues with the crescendo I mentioned, which to me culminates in Samuel's POV and then we get a sort of a whimper at the end. The chapter would hit stronger if you ended it right there, with maybe a sentence about Nat's avatar. Instead we got several lengthy paragraphs that cooled the action down very much and then we get a prelude to what will happen in the next chapter - I assume this was meant as a sort of cliffhanger and it works well as such. It just doesn't gel well with the how the rest of the chapter pans out.

JJB4345_80_815

I disagree. You save who you can save. Just accepting death feels wrong. Ya steal from the reaper whatever you can get away with. Edit: Death is unfair. Willingly submitting to it's mercurial decisions makes no sense to me. I don't know if Whitey is doomed to be a past tense, but I sure as heck won't be calling for his head just because I think his death is better for the story.

WhiteLeeopard

This so much! It is sad, but the dead are dead and to break the cycle of life makes it so there are no stakes and no real pressure. And also no closure on anything, as anyone that is defeated can return again. The story must move forward, losing allies and enemies alike. All I hope is we meet the real Myrra outside.

WhiteLeeopard

Maybe Lissandra hunted and killed her own avatar?

blaw

Samuel pov, second paragraph. 'Hell difficulty attendees, like me' . You could read this as him being in hell now.

Subliminary

Bro the avatar version of Nat is just banishing people to the shadow realm by aura alone?? Lool. Also I’m loving the feel of Whitey against everyone else from the tournament. They just are not ready. Also love Whitey going “lol this output is bullshit” while in Nat’s body

Moonfrost

With the way they're just vanishing it seems similar to the mana blast he obliterated Witherclaw with, just downscaled a lot because they ain't Witherclaw

Doleo

Is there an avatar of Lissandra, the information said avatar of everyone who enters so i assume there might be an option to not?

anonymous patreon

M-maybe

Ivan Jelenić

Wooooo! Yes! Thanks! Can't wait for the next chappie. Love all those POVs.

Leyphelio

Is the avatar doing what they call aura farming?

Claro reyes

Now it's gonna be Avatar Nat vs Whitey Nat. Is there another level to this patreon so we can read ahead???

Im the smallest peach

Exactly. From the very start we knew he was going to die. Even Lis didnt make it over multiple attempts in past tutorials. Letting him go out with a bang is the best sendoff he can have

Kelto

Just the pressure of his mana should be enough to kill most attendees, even more so if he focuses all the pressure in small groups

Funny guy

Danks fur da chappie!

Oaktree

Easy difficulty: so add white hair and red eyes to his card. Normal difficulty: I think he was smiling? Hard difficulty: holy crap he’s faster than taci. Hell and beyond (who could somewhat actually see what was going on): WTF!!!

Adrian Rake

Sweet 🙂👍 Nathaniel aka Whitey and his avatar are unstopable. Can’t wait when they will fight each other. This will be epic and also very valuable experience for Nat observing everything from the mind perspective.

vEnviouz

TFTC!!!

Budgie

This chapter vaporized T_T moar

Isaac Lung

Where does it say that Samuel is in Hell difficulty?

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter

Val the mysterious Jedi

Love whitey owning everything but nat bot deleting anyone who enters his room is icing on the cake. Also all you people who hope whitey is saved miss the point of his character, he already lived and sadly the system shouldn't allow him to be revived. Death has to mean something in great books. One reason I lov this book, red rising and storm light archives.

Val the mysterious Jedi

Samuel is only hard but he is supposed to represent that group and also the military people who will keep order hell and above are the kings/gods but they alone won't be able to control/protect a whole plnet let alone a continent

John Anastacio

Good catch, I was going to post the same thing. Samuel is Hard, not Hell.

D Pryor

Wonder what this attack. Mana domain and tyrant? Something similar to domain training he did with the absolute back in 5th?

Lestrat Shadow

Thanks for the chapter and then will be nat vs white demon

Dregos

Fucking great

Tsorov

Maybe Nat managed to take over his Avatar after leaving his body to whitey, and now they have the same base stats and energy output. Now only their mastery over their energys will make the difference?

max grok

I've a question: isn't Samuel in Hard Difficulty? I feel like that's a change that doesn't make any sense, his only remarkable feature was being the self-important leader of a bunch of battle-hardened but otherwise meaningless soldiers who certainly weren't all at Hell's level in terms of potential, plus there was that entire thing between him and Tess where she pointed out someone not even in Hell wouldn't play any meaningful role on Earth

Oaktree

Mana obsessed buffoon is now in the top ten nicknames for nat.

Nikolas Maniotis

Tftc

Andrew

Thank you!

asdfmeepman

What a fucking amazing chapter. Thank you

Belmont Igneul

God this really is their last battle :(

Borbino the great

I’ve been so excited for this chapter and wow it didn’t disappoint I can’t wait to see whitey Nat vs duplinat

Erebus

Woop

Venno

Domination. Love it!

Eduron

thx for chap

Niclas Elmers

Tftc


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