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The Nature of Predators 2-92

🕑 Added 2024-12-06 12:00:16 +0000 UTC

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kabhes

It's not out of spite, it's the same tactic the Russians used against the Nazis. Burn everything you abandon so the enemy can't use it.

kabhes

Things are really speeding up. I hope it slows down again I want to see more people interaction and less space battles.

kabhes

Batteries don't like the cold very much, neither does oil and grease if it gets cold enough.

Gumcel

"Synthetics don't need climate control" Lmao. Tell me you live somewhere where it never snows without telling me you live somewhere where it never snows.

DemonVee

Yes! Couldn’t recall what he was called.

Space Paladin

Mafani I assume you mean? 👀

DemonVee

I can't remember the reskets name, but something tells me Taylor is going to have a sort of reunion with a certain Underscale replicant.

DemonVee

The Jaslips on this world were the only ones not liberated yet. I don't think they were blasted out of existence though since their species is adapt at being underground and the Krev couldn't have built robo bases near the poles if they wanted to maintain secrecy. Even if they were hit, there are definitely at least a few rebel cells ready to fight the drones.

DemonVee

Hmm, did they close the cage the second the truth was revealed? That might give it a few days to chill. Gress did mention that everything designed to protect the planet can be reversed on it, since a planet's heat has to be regulated so that it doesn't also cook itself they probably set up that cage so that all the infrared radiation escapes more easily.

Some Lvm

Wow! I did not expect the Consortium to impload so fast and hard... Glass the planet right away? Before the UN even landed? What does that accomplish? Also, how much time has the cage been closed? It takes time for temperature to drop significantly, its not like the part of the planet that is on the night side turns to ice every night. Anyway, this is definitely more of a shitshow than I expected, and one would think by now, after so many chapters, I'd be somewhat used to SP's writing stile. At this point I won't even risk venturing a guess as to what awaits the crew on the ground...

Some Lvm

Yea, kind of same...

EliasArt2Life

The longer this goes on, the less it feels like the reveal of the Shadow Fleet, and the more it feels like Aafa’s last stand. The Consortium is throwing away everything not dedicated to war, weaponizing even civilians, just to fight us better. But we’ve got a LOT deeper and darker that we can go. I’ve noticed a lot of people remarking with surprise that Gress can so accurately predict the Consortium’s next move, but that never really surprised me. Think about it; if a human had to predict what their government would do next, they could probably do it with what other aliens would consider prophetic accuracy. Especially if they had been trained to understand and predict the actions of others. It would simply be a matter of thinking about human nature. Well, Gress is both trained to predict others AND a Krev predicting Krev government actions. Everything we’re seeing? This is just a part of Krev nature. As Gress put it, they’re a species of liars. Their greatest empire united many others under their banner by lying about monsters that existed past their boarders, that only THEY could protect against. The Consortium did the same thing, just with the Federation. I believe that, on a GOVERNMENTAL level, the Krev see lies as a way to control the narrative, and control of the narrative as a way to push people into unity. But the people are clamoring for the truth, an inconvenient thing that causes DISUNITY, and they’ve been pitted against a group dedicated to SPREADING the truth. But a robotic populace only knows what is programmed into their minds. Bits of truth can be overwritten and tweaked to make sure people only ever know the narrative that the Consortium wants them to. Once you’ve got the robots and transcripts, you don’t need the organics who keep causing trouble by seeking the truth. It’s Krev nature. At least the bad side of Krev nature. That’s been allowed to run wild for over a century.

PhycoKrusk

It's even worse than that. There's no tactical advantage to keeping civilians out of the Coalition's control, and when you can simply build as many new soldiers as you want with no need to train them, the strategic advantage is minimal as well. The reason for closing the Cage is to keep the Coalition out. The reason for cutting the power is to reserve all of it for underground military installations. The reason for bombing the surface is to prevent the Coalition from utilizing the infrastructure, as will as to make it as difficult as possible to actually identify entrances to those underground installations. It isn't so much a case of "if we can't have them, no one can" as it is "just make it as difficult for them as possible, there's nothing up there we want anyway."

Michael Halpern

im getting concerned about how accurately Gress is able to anticipate the Synth Krev. my concern is that there's at least one instance of him in their leadership. He is just relaying what he would do.

Michael Halpern

They actually still need the organics, that's why they brought down the temperature to force them underground to shelter, technically they just need genetic samples, but its a lot easier to maintain the people over the baby making machines. You can only copy a file so many times before it starts getting corrupted, and fresh minds are absolutely essential, which is why they wouldn't just let the organic Krev go.

PhycoKrusk

I doubt it, if only because building synthetic children would be a waste of resources. The only way they would have done it would be if Lecca has been synthetic for as long as we've known her, and she was converted specifically to make it easier to monitor and control Gress. I do not believe that even Coalition androids are that convincing, which then opens up a whole new nightmare because, after all, without a detailed examination, it would be almost impossible to distinguish an organic from a Terminator.

PhycoKrusk

11 or 12, I think.

PhycoKrusk

The Jaslip enclave was just turned into a smoldering crater.

PhycoKrusk

It is, actually. That infrastructure was built for the benefit of organics; destroying it means the Allies can't use it either. The only part of their population they care about is the synthetic one, so it's not really a loss for the Krev. Lastly, once the Allies are repelled (destroyed or otherwise), that infrastructure can be rebuilt to better suit artificial life, rather than biological. Synthetics don't need climate control, food, rest, or sleep, so they can work around the clock. For the Krev, this maneuver poses little more than an inconvenience.

Kevo

I guess the Krevs planet doesn’t have as much ocean as ours to freeze so quick . Also to have the power of the sun in your orbital world cage jail sounds crazy!

Dale

Black mirror had a few dark takes too

Gumcel

Destroying your own planet's infrastructure and turning it into a barren rock. Absolutely genius tactical maneuver.

Adam Myers

Fair, sorry to bother you,

Guardian

...So...Avor is in a form of artifical winter, eh? And the Jaslip enclave had not been removed, yes? Hmm, spidey-sense tingling....

Guardian

For Karl! Uh, I mean, Lecca!

Roscuro

How long ago did I call the cages being a giant red flag? That is to say, what chapter were they introduced, way back when?

Shajenko

Copying someone's mind and instantiating a digital version of that mind has all kinds of horribly frightening possibilities. Altered Carbon and Eclipse Phase did a good job of exploring them.

Heroman3003

Oh god.... Are they going to find out that Lecca is gone... But there is a small robotic Lecca still out there, looking for her dad? Is that what are you going to do to us SP? Are you really that horribly cruel? It would play into the whole 'robot people, or are they people?' arc a ton, and it wouldn't be unreasonable to happen with all we know at this point... I am scared. It does seem like the Underscales are absolutely desperate though, at least. Purging the populace with power outage, freezing AND antimatter bombing all at once means they basically expect to be breached and just want to make things worse when it happens. They know they've lost, they just want to hurt as much as possible on the way out. This is just a bleak fuckin situation all around... Somehow, any victory against Avor will now be a lot less triumphant and celebratory now, I feel. Well, this is definitely a harsh turn. Great chapter. Good work. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?!!

DDDragoni

Jesus christ... "If I can't have it, no one can" applied to millions if not billions of lives. A temper tantrum can be cute when a toddler throws one over a toy, not when it results in genociding your own people. Horrifying

Space Paladin

I have no time table for when the second paperback would be released

Xilacnog

Lecca is still alive, whoever is at the head of this, has her close by to turn Gress on Taylor as one last twist of the knife.

DreamEnvoy

The chances of Lecca still being alive seem slim. But imagine the KC using a bunch of robo-Leccas just to torment Gress.

Alekss Žukovskis

nice chapter. i like the suspense as usual. take a break if need be

Alekss Žukovskis

holly moly. death cults are not to be joked around with.

Michael Halpern

it had the heat and light, they just left those systems off

John Benjamin Cate

They must have been planning this for ages. Before even the Jaslip were discovered. The shell didn’t even have any of the heating and light it was supposed to! All planned! And wonderfully distressing! So good!

Jonathan Cardoso Mota

Funniest thing, but I actually think this is an actual great plot point. It really plays into the "is it still the same person" part of it! Of course it relies on the choice being deliberate on Gress' part and it not being a surprise reveal.

Byron Ritchie

please sp15! let lecca live!

Swan

I feel like "Conspiracy theorist is correct" is starting to become a theme of NOP, which is kinda funny

Adam Myers

I enjoyed the chapter and hope that Lecca is ok. (I take is Elia is leading the squad?) Do you have an estimate as to when the second paperback will get published? I am very excited about it!

Sci-fi reader

Reminds me of this. https://youtu.be/9fhFSDoCLzY?si=67viUkQ83K-v_OCx

DemonVee

The Krev already have Lecca, they know she can be used as a pawn against Gress since he's involved. An alternative scenario is that they'll use a brain scan of her to torment Gress. Worst case scenario is probably making him choose.

REDemon14

The idea that someone makes a copy of you and just has them have all the suffering and none of the peace, and then have them be just a thing to be used is really unnerving! I honestly couldn’t judge Taylor or Gress for destroying any potential copy out of mercy, don’t know what I would do. Taylor and Cala can try to calm Gress all they want, but *nothing* can calm a worried parent except the safe return of their child. Gress shouldn’t blame himself for not being able to convince anyone about a robot army made from the mind scans of the population. As far as anyone was concerned, Meier was the pinnacle of Mind uploading tech. Also, I doubt he wouldn’t been able to get Lecca off Avor without having to explain to his ex-wife which then could’ve leaked to the gov’t. Wait, so the shell is functioning as intended! We only made the mistake of thinking that the shell was meant to protect the *organic citizens*! The KC have been planning this for who knows how long. Hey, an unmodded Venlil and he's leading! Glad to see them using that ancient strength that comes natural to them. God. All those people, gone. As Taylor said, they could've let the flesh and blood people leave *and* keep their robots, but they destroyed their own people, just put of spite! Reminds me of a Chinese Emperor who's name escapes me at the moment. That's not even mentioning all the animals (like Obors) that are likely gone or close to gone. I know each world has a cage, but the other worlds may not suffer the bombing the Gov't inflicted on Avor. So they may be in a better situation. The KC were the greatest threat to the population. They're may be enough organic people underground to actually merit a rescue mission. Hopefully, Lecca and her mother are too. I wonder if our rescue squad are gonna run into some copies while underground. For everyone's sake, the SC needs to disable the controls for the drones and the legion. There's probably gonna be a lot of traps and man vs machines skirmishes in the upcoming battles. The Krev species are in a very delicate situation when it comes to the survival of their species/culture. Here's hoping they'll get to use the artificial wombs that the Ark humans and Osir Jaslips used. If the UN/SC manage to secure intact copies of the memory transcripts, I could see them letting robo-versions of the KC citizens adopt the organic krev children (or even their own cloned selves). Really looking forward to how this will go down!

Michael Halpern

The synths probably decided they needed to keep enough organics around to prevent genetic bottlenecking, as they will need fresh minds to copy to remain adaptive and prevent copy degradation. unfortunately they don't need a lot to do that, and they will be more useful in the near term as hostages

Swan

Why do I get this feeling that it wouldn't be as easy as "Get to the terminal, deploy the cyberweapon?"

Yonael Blackwood

Please do not Fallout 4 this. I beg you SP. It was such a dumb plot.

Soldier Lsnake

We are going underground boys. Rock and stone

Pineapplepilot

SP I see a possibility that you need to avoid like the plague; do NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, *kill* Lecca and then make Gress take home a robo-kid. Please.

Mark Baculna

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