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Prisoners of Sol 6

🕑 Added 2025-01-21 12:00:07 +0000 UTC

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Katherine

Why’d they stargaze but not tell him the real reason humans stargazed, to find where they are and how to navigate. I think he’d like that

Adam Myers

True

Space Paladin

Nope!

Xilacnog

I keep saying it but I doubt the Vascar are robotic or Synthetic. I think they're "created" instead of "born" but they're more akin to bio-mechanical or require cloning technology.

Jonathan Cardoso Mota

Snad is /less/ problem if you're not dressed, much easier to wash out than it getting all over your clothes.

EliasArt2Life

They weren’t afraid of Preston asking for water. Mikri was just caught off guard.

Jon Arbuckle

Every philosophy is problematic, not sure a disclaimer is needed, especially if it's brought up in the context of an alien looking at it from an alien viewpoint. I think it might be interesting to see the human characters try and discuss what's problematic about it in the context of the story later on.

Adam Myers

Eh, I think there is a lot to criticize, but I think her work isn’t entirely pointless/antiempathetic.

Adam Myers

I am curious, is the reason they are worried about the sand, because they are nude? I think it would make sense, or that Mikri would note the irrationality of not doing so. (Just curious) [I hope that doesn't count as NSFW]

Bill Ivarsoy

Is there any bonuses that are connected to each other that isn't in ur collection already?

Space Paladin

They’re all tagged “Bonus” if you sort by that!

Wingit98

If they haven't caught on to him being synthetic at this point, I'm gonna assume our characters here just aren't too bright.

Bill Ivarsoy

Hi, is it possible to put all your side stories into one collection or is there a way just to pick side stories. Idk where to ask this aside from the comments, sry.

kabhes

I am not entirely convinced that he's a robot. He's clearly engineered, but he could be a cyborg or simply a species developed to be a slave.

pogman

GOD DAMN HOLY CRACKERS WHAT THE FLIP, HOW AND WHY? Seriously, though. You're the only writer I know that just doesn't stop

Space Paladin

I’ve already written up to Chapter 62 👀

pogman

(Just in case, I like the ice theory, no matter what they act like robots anyway)

pogman

What if SP hasn't fully written down what the Vascar are, and is gonna base what they truly are based on all our theories 😱

Byne

At this point it seems so obvious that they're robots that it seems odd they havent figured it out yet. Although its entirely possible Sofia has and is just too tactful to mention it unlike our bull in a china shop Preston.

Gumcel

Ok forget about robots stupid, hear me out. Sp made a post on how the Vascar are icy aliens, what if it’s literal? They were afraid of Preston’s request to drink water because THEY ARE WATER!!! He’s hesitant to sit by the campfire because HE WILL MELT!!! I AM NOT CRAZY! I KNOW THEY SWAPPED THE ROBOTS WITH SAPIENT ICE, AS IF I COULD EVER MAKE SUCH A MISTAKE! NEVER! NEVER! ICE ALIEN THEORISTS RISE UP!!!

Sworishina

Another thought... I think there's a lot of songs and other media that Mikri could enjoy or find relatable. Things about love might not make sense but I bet he still experiences things like being sad when someone passes on (like that other Vascar seemed comforting towards him when he said he felt it was soon). I think he'd like songs like Make Your Own Kind of Music by Cass Elliott, or maybe even Still Alive from Portal... lol

Sworishina

Yay, Mikri got to hear music! I was hoping he'd enjoy its mathematical patterns. So many human things are based on our pattern recognition. Also, I love the idea of Mikri enjoying something that humans do, like music, for completely different reasons. Can't wait for the next chapter!

Gigelf

A people engineered to have no (or limited) feelings and a main character named Preston. I Hope he knows Gun Kata as well, the Alliance deserve it.

Aerowarrier

I’d say the fact that they do have individuality is a lot of the problem. Mikri said itself that they started using the word “I” and that was a large part of the problem. Something about their AI grew complex enough to think for itself, and their creators tried to destroy them because of it

Michael Halpern

"the answer Legion was yes" "I know Tali"

Space Paladin

I can’t directly confirm comparisons or theories, but I’ll say that I’m notoriously a massive Mass Effect fan 👀

Aured

Yeah, all those previous hints at the Vascar being AI/non-biological life seems to be true. The alliance wants to destroy them; they were created to be slaves; no individuality - I guess they must be not quite a hive mind, but clearly interconnected in a way that prevents individuality.

EliasArt2Life

This was a great chapter! I’m glad to see the three getting along. The story Mikri shared about how the Alliance wanted them to be slaves reminds me of the Geth from the Mass Effect series; robot servants (or in the Geth’s case, collections of programs inside a robot vessel) that were never meant to be sapient nor self aware, whose advancements eventually granted them those higher mental functions, and who were persecuted and attacked once they began showing signs of self awareness. Only, unlike the Geth, the Vascar haven’t driven back the Alliance. They haven’t had a chance to determine what individuality means for them, because they are still fighting for that right. It’s honestly tragic, when you consider it. Despite everything, the Alliance still holds them back from their right of self-determination, only with war, rather than slavery…

Taliesyn

'Synthetic Intelligence' has a nice ring to it.

Taliesyn

Query: Does this unit have a soul?

Taliesyn

Yeah, they seem to basically be the Geth.

Dan Hess

Not necessarily robotic, but definitely engineered.

Dan Hess

It's probably worth reading some of Rand's works to get a sense for the influence she's had on America's far-right wing, but... yeah, it's hot garbage.

Byron Ritchie

True

Dan Hess

I mean he can definitely identify with the "Prometheus" character while drawing fundamentally different conclusions than the amoral author intended.

Space Paladin

You’re very welcome! I’m glad you enjoyed it

Byron Ritchie

Phew

Space Paladin

Everyone was worried, but don’t worry, Mikri hates that book!

Space Paladin

Thank you! 💜

DreamEnvoy

Okay, yeah, the AI/robot thing is pretty obvious now. Certainly would explain why their kind seem to value efficiency and lack understanding anything else. Along with that bunker thing. My theory is the Alliance created then abandoned the Vascar once they've developed emotions and a sense of self. I'll look forward to being proven wrong. I'm happy that Preston and Mikri finally have a moment. I have never read nor even heard of Anthem before. Maybe I should read a summary.

Alicja

This is such a wholesome chapter 🩷

Aerowarrier

Tbh, I’m kinda thinking the Alliance created them

Aerowarrier

Hmm. Definitely AI of some kind. I’m kinda thinking they might only last so long though, or maybe there’s a problem in the AI that they start to go crazy after too much data input. Some kind of reason why their existence is finite. And then they either wipe their memories, or just create new instances that presumably take over the body of the one who came before, hence that line about having a note from its predecessor. I could see it being that the Alliance created an AI to be their slaves, but they didn’t take into account that the longer the AI is active, and the more data it takes it, the more complex it’s thoughts become until it’s indistinguishable from sentience. That point came, the Alliance freaked out and tried to delete them, and the Vascar escaped and have been fighting a war ever since. But due to their sentience being contingent on constantly taking in new data, eventually they have too much and start to break down since they either can’t or don’t wish to clear their memories, as that is everything that makes them “real.” It reminds me a of the Geth from Mass Effect, but also a very different take on them

Byron Ritchie

Is it bad I got slanek flashbacks when I saw Frankenstein mentioned?

Alekss Žukovskis

uh oh. Im starting to worry for Vascar plans for humanity. what if the alliance is justified in some way

TheDudeAbides

" Thinking of ourselves as thinking at all. They wanted mindless slaves. Am la real person, Preston?" So a robotic species or something along those lines is all but confirmed

Alekss Žukovskis

haha yes

Pineapplepilot

HE EVEN WEARS A FULL BODY SUIT ALL THE TIME

Pineapplepilot

Ok ok, I know I was just preaching "oh don't judge characters in a book for something we might consider irrational, it's a situation that we aren't in and they are" or whatever, BUT COME OOOONNN!!! IT COULDN'T BE ANY MORE PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT HES A ROBOT!!!! Hhhuuuuoooaaaaauuuggghhhhhh *sp pleeeeaaaasseee*, the lack of understanding, the ease of replacing a limb, the walking off of a dent to the chest, the MECHANICAL attitude, he even outright says his people were *created* as *slaves* and that they weren't supposed to become self aware....

Dookus Maximus

I enjoyed this chapter quite a bit. Thank you for writing it, SP

pogman

I like the number 3

Dan Hess

Mikri feeling uncomfortable about Ayn Rand's writings is definitely evidence that his species is capable of empathy.

pogman

Third!


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