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Prisoners of Sol 5

🕑 Added 2025-01-18 12:00:07 +0000 UTC

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Xilacnog

Because Eris dumped Rudeus

Sworishina

Ohhh that makes sense, thank you!

Space Paladin

Sofia is providing a wide variety of classic human literature that shows vast genres/philosophies, and the point is that Mikri craves the mere idea of extreme individualism, not the actual book. What he latches onto is definitely the idea of "I" being a banned word, I hope that was clear!

kabhes

Why do they keep mentioning Pluto and not Eris?

Sworishina

I get that you don't endorse Ayn Rand, but Sofia having one of her books and recommending it to Mikri at least implies she likes an Ayn Rand book, if not her books in general.

Aerowarrier

They were still drilled on it, and would’ve been stupid to assume that breaking through a cage around the entire system wouldn’t attract some kind of attention from something. Granted, human stupidity knows no bounds, but it still should have been considered

PhycoKrusk

First contact was not anticipated, so there was no consideration given towards selecting a team that would be any good at it.

Space Paladin

Twenty generations from now, Gabe Newell the 20th made it happen 🤣

Space Paladin

They do not!

Alekss Žukovskis

Hey SP! does humanity posess AGI in this story?

Alekss Žukovskis

I guess the selecting committee didn't account for environment being grating to Prestons mind. He has nothing backing him and his military mind is left addressing the only frontier that is present. Preston could get worse, if time on earth passed relatively slowly, or if drones, zip by too much faster, leaving those three alone.

Dan Hess

The weapon would break before the human did.

Aerowarrier

Half Life 3 is recent…this is set in the relatively far future xD bro did Gabe Newell die and tell his kids to hide his notes on the game

Aerowarrier

Dude if you saw something come to earth and run faster than a car then start whooping and hollering about how light it is here and how easy it is to move around, you’d be goddamn terrified. Of course the subject matter of this experiment is concerning, you’re a walking god compared to the beings out here

EliasArt2Life

I’ve noticed that Space Paladin has a love for intrigue plots and secret shadow organizations running things. In more than just NOP.

Aerowarrier

Ngl, this guy is kind of an absolute asshole. Horrible person to send on a mission that they expected to lead to some kind of first contact should it succeed. Like try and be a little grateful they’re even responding to your requests, they don’t have to

Thacerot

Wouldn't melee weapons work amazing in this universe? Imagine a human just slicing everyone and everything in clean in half 🤯

EliasArt2Life

@NWOIT_93 I have no problem with if other people enjoy the trope or get something out of it; I just wanted to get my own thoughts and feeling on the matter down sooner rather than later. On the off chance thing really start to grate on me, I’d rather explain why sooner, rather than later. I’m sorry, but I can’t watch that video right now; it’s got major spoilers for Nier: Automata, and I haven’t finished that game yet. I’ve been avoiding spoilers for that game for a long time.

Dan Hess

I'm still rooting for silicide-based lifeforms, just because it's not something often encountered in scifi.

Alekss Žukovskis

who isn't a biological robot these days 😒

NWOIT_93

I get that, but honestly a part of me enjoys having a character to relate to like that. This might sound cringe or w/e but I'm in the furry community and choose to present myself online as something robotic (a synth) because I feel an affinity for robots. Not quite human in the same way as everyone else but that comes with a lot more awareness of how I can define myself. I'd also recommend Davy Gunface's video "Autism and Robots." He does an extremely good job explaining this idea

EliasArt2Life

@PhycoKrusk So you’re saying that the neurodivergent thought process is little better than a computer making true/false comparisons? Nah, I’m just joking; I know you don’t mean that, and it would be ridiculous for anyone to assume that’s what you (or anyone writing these stories) meant. I totally get the logic behind it; robots are machines meant to be used as tools, and as tools they need to avoid inconsistencies that come with emotions, leading to their dependence on logic. As tools, unless they were built for it, social interactions are also low priority. It’s just that, this world, and people in it, often makes me feel like I’m not entirely human. I walk into a supermarket, and get overwhelmed with all the sensory input, but know I’ll get stared at if I start to lose it there. I can talk to people, but I can’t forget that I’m always one mistake away from being ostracized without due process or a chance to explain myself. One mistake that I never see coming. People treat me well, but it’s not like they’re really interested in anything more than surface level interactions. My unease at the trope is just that, when I have to wrestle every day with feelings of not fitting into the human race, a trope that stands as a reminder of that is going to make me feel a little off. And that’s not anyone’s fault but those who’ve given me this initial struggle in the first place, and given that many of them don’t even realize that they’re doing it, the amount of fault they have is highly debatable. But at the same time, these feeling I have about this are real, and matter to me. So, even if I know the logical reasons behind the trope, I can still choose to allow myself to feel the way I do about it. Perhaps there’s a bit of irony here that, against the stereotype, and against even the observations of however many people have called me “hard to read” or mentioned that I “don’t show much emotion”, I choose to feel emotion over logic in this case.

PhycoKrusk

I believe the biggest reason for that kind of writing is because of the natural "cause-and-effect" of a robot's synthetic psychology. That is, because what underlies a computer is ultimately trillions of true/false comparisons, then it does make a kind of sense that a synthetic being would generally be unexpressive and lean heavily on logic. Do I have some kind of point? Beats me. Maybe all life outside of Sol seems exceptionally stoic compared to humans; maybe everything from Sol is more intense, emotions included. Maybe I just like trying to seem more intelligent than I actually am? Who knows _what_ the real answer is?

PhycoKrusk

Unbelievable. The future humans of "Prisoners of Sol" got Half-Life 3 before we got GTA 6.

Nachtmund

"From a new game, Half-Life 3!" This is what truly makes it Science-Fiction. Hoping they figure out they are all robots soon.

Taliesyn

If it makes you feel better, my phone straight-up refuses to type 'and' unless I do it letter tap by letter tap. Any other time, it spits out 'abs'.

Space Paladin

Sofia definitely is wording what she says in a very specific way, she’s the brightest bulb of these two haha! Preston’s the joker, so not a brainiac or an archetype Mikri would mesh with at all… Humans will definitely have to worry about breaking people and things by total accident, like Superman Also, if these were robots that were unfeeling, there would be a reason for that beyond just that they’re robots 👀

pogman

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O

Space Paladin

This takes place in the 2500s 🤣

Space Paladin

My phone hates me

Space Paladin

My bad! I clearly shouldn’t have done the edits at 11 at night lol 😂

Space Paladin

Thank you lol. Half life 3 is never happening but I’m choosing an optimistic future 🤣

EliasArt2Life

Uh… could it be any more obvious? No pain, and a DENTED midsection, replacing a leg is treated as commonplace. Mikri is going to be in for frustration upon realizing that the humans will be hard to get rid of, since he can’t take off the suit or do repairs while they’re watching. I am 90% sure Sophia knows or suspects. Her word choice is seeming too on the nose. The strength humanity has here is… concerning. Great for war, but I think we’d like to be able to shake someone’s appendage WITHOUT risking crushing them. Maybe we can create personal “bubble” or our spaces physics, and put those on our person when we’re interacting with others. I don’t agree with Preston, but I DO see his point. Mikri needs to learn to enjoy humanity for who we are before we can be friends. But that’s not going to happen until he stops worrying that we’re going to choose the Alliance over the Vicar. I’ll be honest, I always have mixed feeling over robot plots. I LOVE that they’re usually in depth examinations of what makes people human/human compatible, and brings up many legitimate questions about humanity and the origins of obligate sapience. On the other hand, many robots/androids are neurodivergent coded. Lack of emotions, lack of expressiveness, difficulty socializing, like of repetitive tasks with a dislike for surprises, and a higher reliance on logic. As a person with Autism, it can be… dehumanizing at times to see someone with so many of my traits (even when turned up to an 8) being shown as such an outsider of the human race. It’s a little better knowing that the robots in those stories usually end up being declared pretty much the same as humans, but it’s still something that gnaws at the back of my head with these. I’m interested to see where this goes, though!

pogman

Wait, what year is it?

pogman

HALD LIDEE DO3!1'nqnqn GORGON FREMONT MENRIONED RAAHAHHH

Xilacnog

and there we go, the thing that made an interesting story impossible to happen... HL3 actually being released :P Couple of things I'm curious about: - Could it be that Humanity has been imprisoned in that pocket dimension to make them "Superhuman" outside? i.e. So that they'd become a super-soldier caste/species for the Elusians or some other ancient power OR so that they could act as "Galactic Community" Stewards or Guardians. - Given the disparity between the dimensions, I immediately thought of Star Blazers's Time Fault that Humanity used to go from minor power to the Ultimate Galactic Power. If Human thrusters and reactors are overpowered outside, imagine what will happen with weaponry and armor plating. - I'm not entirely convinced yet that the Vascar are synthetic or robotic, they could be bio-synths or just use cloning technology to replace limbs and increase their population.

Gumcel

“Preston for a multitude of regions” “Is it fair for Mikri to consider us a threat for his stated regions” Sp’s autocorrect has it out for “reason” for some reason. Anyways, if Mikri’s trying to hide the nature of his species then he’s doing an abysmal job lol.

Emmanuel Morín

La parte menos realista es Valve haciendo Half-life 3 As always, love your work, greetings from Mexico

craig spaulding

A species without art; nearly certainly biological but with a very detached, very logical view; a war shrouded in mystery; the distinct possibility that humans were developed as a superweapon. Hmmm… I starting to sense the possibility of another fascist government like the ones from NOP.

Some Lvm

I think autocrrect got this one, "reasons" got to be "regions" twice in the summery. That said, every time a new piece of evidence Vascar are artificial comes up, another one that goes the other way seems to show up too... They do speak with audible clicks, which no AI or robot would need to. And if they are AI, why did their medical analysis show the possibility of humans being that strong? You would thinking after performing a full medical an AI race would have Preston punch a dummy, not one of them. Also, while "legs can be replaced" sounds robotic to humans, the fact this applies to specifically legs and not other parts of the body, suggests whatever Mikri is, he isn't a cast away robotic avatar for an AI that can download in to a new body any time it wants. Also, what is up with super strength? Just having a lower gravity wouldn't make you stronger that way. What is up with this new universe...?

REDemon14

I feel so bad for everyone in this situation. Preston and Sofia have to explain that the absolute bare minimum, while survivable, is not ideal. While Mikri has to deal with the "picky-ness" o of these humans. Must feel like micromanagement from his view.

Sci-fi reader

What about another Duke Nuk’em sequel?

Byron Ritchie

Yeah they’re definitely robots even if ‘biological’ ones

Sci-fi reader

Typo. "... Before Mikri finished his sentence, I rocked back and plowed my fist into my sternum with all of my might..." Should probably be "...into his sternum..." Also, Preston is annoyingly entitled.

Space Paladin

Preston’s not making inroads with Mikri, certainly could be more appreciative of what Mikri has done for them!

Space Paladin

Thinking you just killed someone can be known to do that 🤔

Space Paladin

I’m quite willing to bank on Half-Life 3 not coming out in our lifetimes 🤣

John Krause

Cant tell if it’s for mirik or if he’s just crying over the fact that he thought it would have consequences for humanity

Yonael Blackwood

Surprised they haven't started theorising that Mikri is a robot yet.

DreamEnvoy

“It tastes like someone took everything they could find and threw it in a blender.” “Oh. That is what we did…” Yeah, either they are robots, a species that somehow lack basic organic needs, or a species that lack pleasure. No wonder they find humans complicated. “It’s a character from a recent game called Half-Life 3.” Recent. That got a bit of a chuckle out of me. Will be dated if HL3 somehow manages to come out in our lifetimes, but still funny. “Legs can be replaced” Robot it is, then. Or very chill about prosthetics. Sofia's comparing herself and Preston to superheroes is pretty accurate. Very much like Superman, being adapted to a much harsher environment.

Rusty Deviant

I’m honestly surprised they aren’t questioning what he is more based on the reactions and now the whole getting his chest crumpled thing

Nutthadhun Sripukdee

Oh, wow. I didn’t expect them to get THAT much of a power-up. How exciting!

Wholesome Redditter

During the running exam all I can think of is the William Tell remix from DanDaDan

TheDudeAbides

First thing on the agenda when hopelessly lost and at the mercy of a totally unknown alien who is doing it's best to accommodate me is to passively aggressively try and annoy it and complain when I'm not being sarcastic. Even though it's obvious the alien takes what we say and we need and provides it as as close to exactly what we asked for as possible.

cf

Half life 3, this truly is science fiction

Alekss Žukovskis

wow. Preston cried.


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