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The Nature of Predators 2-83

🕑 Added 2024-10-31 11:00:10 +0000 UTC

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kabhes

The mazics seem to have always been very traditional. They're just more reasonable than the other traditionalists.

Some Lvm

Well, looks like Jones gets to keep her job. I wouldn't put it past her that she already knew of the extra fleet but kept it hidden to motivate the SC to come together. They clearly needed a kick in the hind quarters, and that is exactly what they got on the Grenelka show.

DemonVee

Hmm, I guess we'll get our answer with the Krev's reaction, it does look like the Reskets are following Radai's command so I'm guess they would have mainly embedded themselves in Avar, probably in the central building (The Feds do have a thing for pyramids) But I honestly wouldn't be mad if Kaisal manages to fail the task successfully here 😅 Given the themes so far, the Ghost Farsul being the ones who digitized themselves would also make sense. Maybe going so overboard with their belief in the hunger that they sought to shed their bodies entirely, and are now just completely puppeting the consortium from a far, maybe even puppeting multiple factions of the same size that we aren't aware of. I mentioned this before but it's just too convenient that the consortium's policy is to literally "cage" themselves, preventing colonization while also destroying their only carnivore member's homeworld. The fear of the stagnation coming from the brain scan technology manifesting itself within the more radical vestiges of the Federation, if you make yourself immortal, even if the "you" is symbolic, also immortalized your beliefs and bias, making it impossible for the galaxy to heal.

PhycoKrusk

@Elias Your past pondering of the Ghost Farsul now demands Consortium considerations: Are the Underscales the Devil, or is the Devil whispering in their ear? Because if they are, in fact, an extension of the Ghost Farsul, then it's not up to them, nor the Alliance, whether the civil war stops or continues. Also, I hate to say this, but Kaisal accidentally made the right decision. Getting trapped in a two-front war was likely unavoidable: There is more and more (admittedly circumstantial) evidence that the Consortium's intelligence apparatus is run ultimately by the GF. Once they had embroiled the Collective and the Coalition on battle, they would've struck from the other direction in a pincer maneuver. Kaisal engaging the Consortium out of the blue the way he did disrupted that plan. Just goes to show you that with determination, perseverance, and a shitload of luck, even a dumdum can ace the exam.

PhycoKrusk

Nothing quite like a face full of margarita salt after they jab one of those little umbrellas in your eye

EliasArt2Life

The Kolshians are aquatic mammalians whose culture has shifted to life solely on land, but yes, the Ghosts may see the Kolshians as intrinsically tainted like the Kolshians saw species like the Leshee and Thafki as being tainted. It would be an ironic fate, but one that’s just rubbing salt in the wound by now.

Roscuro

I'm hoping the consortium gives up easy against the arxur.

Gumcel

Brother what are the spies doing😭 how were they not prepared lol. “amphibious species would never get a fair shot with the Federation.” The kolshians are really screwed no matter what happens lmao.

Space Paladin

I’m glad you enjoyed it! Fixed 😅

Tobias Sumrall

Absolutely fantastic chapter, as they have been for many months. I can't wait to see how this starts tying together in the long run. One small note though: "I hope for a day where the Shield can enjoy the beauty—the relentless—of your devotion and friendship." I feel like that should read "the relentlessness" or somesuch instead

DDDragoni

I wonder if the Shield is going to survive as a faction or split- it's members seem pretty polarized

EliasArt2Life

Whether the Civil War is over or not also depends on the JIB and the Arxur. If the Consortium wants to end it, but the JIB or Arxur prefer to keep fighting, they won’t give the Consortium a choice. Granted, right now, their demands are the release of all Jaslips, which the Consortium will be loath to comply to but might do so anyway, but if they realize they have bartering power, they might up their demands to something too unreasonable. I HOPE the Civil War is over, but I’m WAY past the point of trusting in people in this universe to make a remotely logical decision.

EliasArt2Life

Yep! It’s the Ghosts. This completely changes the odds of the war… Something interesting that I noticed; we didn’t really get to hear about how advanced these ships are; they’re new and advanced, but the battle was dumbed down to their numbers overwhelming the SC forces. They won through numbers, rather than us hearing about better technology. That suggests that we won’t hear about how a SC ship and Ghost ship match up 1 to 1 until later. It would be funny if they end up being half as good, though I’m quicker to bet that they’re about equal. “Maybe before we fire her today, we have to grovel for what she’s dug up…through her unscrupulous means.” Sigh. You can bet that Jones will see through that and use it to barter for her job. I have an interesting thought about the Ghosts’ ship count; they disagreed with the Federation’s “curing” stance, and wanted to wipe out all predators. If they had a fleet that they knew could beat the Kolshians, they probably would have used it to throw a coup. So, I predict that they had ships approximately equal to the Shadow Fleet plus the Dominion Fleet by the end of NOP1. The Yulpa said that it took months (or was it years) to recover from the cyber attack, which lasted 6 months, if I recall correctly. So, I’m guessing that the Ghosts came in AFTER the Remnants recovered from the cyber attack. All in all, let’s estimate that they had 15 years to grow from what they had at the end of NOP1 to where they are today. Given that only the Kolshians Nevoks and Fissians were industrial masters (that we know of), I’ll assume the Ghosts had access to less industrial capacity than us. Even if they built their own industry, that would take additional years (lets say 5). We could be looking at a force this strong on every Remnant world, or a force roughly half this initial size on every Remnant world, or a few scattered fleets of this size. I find it more likely for the number to be smaller. I predict that the number of ships will err towards a few fleets if sizes comparable to this, stationed throughout Remnant space. I’m interested in what plot points are going to come up with the Ghosts. One that I’m especially interested in is seeing if they reach Irvana. Think about it; it’s a predator world, so they’ll want to bomb it, but it also holds the Farsul refugees, who sound like they’ve begun taking a liking to the Bissem. We could be looking at a situation where two groups of Farsul are opposing each other.

PhycoKrusk

What reason is there to assume the Ghost Farsul will eliminate all carnivore and omnivore species (current or former), and then just stop? It's a lesson that may not be learned until one of the species that joined the Coalition just because it was convenient for them is atomized, but it's a lesson that every member of the Coalition must learn and take to heart: We're next.

DemonVee

Also, something I forgot. I should have known that Jones would manage to make herself irreplaceable somehow. She might be bad around your allies, but she's also "bad" around your enemies.

Byron Ritchie

Said to see the Mazics regress a little (although fortunately not that much) at least the duertern have some reason for them to be icky over the tellish situation

DemonVee

Great chapter. Something I only now realized is that the Yulpa weren't just Fed brained idiots at Aafa, they followed their orders expertly. Destroying the homeworld of their new master's old rivals while putting the blame on Humanity. Which will probably sway a good bit of the shield against them. I suspect that as long as the underscales have some brains (if they aren't a Fed plant) and that Radai's stunt with the Arxur doesn't get him assassinated than the KC civil war is over before it started, presented with the very threat the KC was made to fight and that both the Jaslips and Arxur know is a far greater threat. The Ghost Farsul must have swooped into the remnants since the Kolshian's fall, they probably had better tech but no way to contest with the Federation's industry. Until now at least, so 25 years of plotting and building ships in secret. (Conspiracy time.) As for the Sivkits, I'm still kinda sure that Loxcel knows more than he can say. We might get a moment after his silly little play where he meets up with an annoyed Tassi... Dropping the act and saying that she was a good friend, before revealing that she should get a brain scan of his play because he hid information about the Ghost Farsul within, resulting in some deadman switch activating inside his brain. He could be implanted with some AI tracking his speech, vision and what he hears (A perfect unwilling spy that can't leak information at the risk of death.) and his obsession with obscure language could be a way of throwing it off.

Heroman3003

Well, we ain't taking Grenelka with this one, boys. One curious thing was that we did not get to see Kaisal's reaction to this. I imagine he might be particularly furious about this failure, and could possibly even attempt to blame the humans for it somehow, but hopefully he'll instead finally see reason in fighting side-by-side with leaf-lickers instead. It's curious that they think Jones knows something. I wonder what it might be... Though I wouldn't be surprised if it's nothing, or if she does have intel but it's somehow not on this new faction (which might not even be ghost 'farsul' but something else entirely, we still only have Loxsel's rather unrealiable info to go on there after all), but on secrets of Underscales instead. Which would be hilarious and unhelpful if true. I do like the dynamics of Elias and Korajan. They are both constantly politicking at each other due to their position, but at the same time find themselves too caught into the politics and needing to shake the diplomat mask off every once in a while to speak more personally and frankly rather than as representatives. It's a difficult friendship, but I am glad it continues persisting. Also the way Elias calls Syba in his mind is just aaawwwwww. SC entering total war with the Remnants is good, but with how little we actually know of our enemy, the real question is "will it be enough?". Especially now that Consortium has fallen apart into full civil war and cannot help against their 'sworn enemy the Federation' at the moment when help is needed the most. I look forward to seeing how things develop next, but for now will throw out a theory - the reason they came out was because humans were already about to discover their presence and existence by capturing Grenelka and interrogating yulpa leadership. This way they can keep their group's inner workings and motivations secret, even if exposing their general existence properly. Can't wait to see how everything plays out from now on, with the cards slowly turning face up one by one~

Alekss Žukovskis

it was a mistake to not offer a communique to the larger force

REDemon14

I wonder how long the Rogue Farsul have been present in Remnant Space. Ever since the cage went up around Talsk? The defeat of the Kolshians? A lot of unknowns that the SC/KC/AC can’t afford to stumble into. Jones might be useful for something, unfortunately. It does have me worried about the fact she is talking to someone in her headset. Either she is relaying new info to the one on the other end or she is *confirming* a suspicion. If she’s confirming, it’s troubling that she didn’t share any concerns, theories, or data with the UN leadership. *IF* she had intel about the possibility of the Ghost Farsul being present on Grenelka, she put the SC at risk by withholding said intel. Having a minor force attack Libastion instead of the full Ghost force is a legitimate strategy, hit the enemy with a probing attack to draw out their forces and gather intel, then when they enemy gives chase or launches a counter attack, you can hit them with hidden overwhelming force. Of course as mentioned, this usually only works so often (hopefully only once) until the enemy wisens up to this strat. If the battle is lost, might as well take as many as them with you. Especially if you have unmanned units. At least we have allies to stand with us. I’m still miffed by the Mazic’s attitude toward the Ark colonists, not like they helped to prevent the whole thing unlike the Venlil, Zurulians, Yotul, or Arxur, but begrudging support is still support. No surprise the Venlil and Yotul give their full support. No verbal commitment from the Zurulians though, I’m guessing that’s either because they mostly have medical ships or going through each ally’s pledge of commitment would be too much to type out and I agree XD. The Krakotl and Harchen pledging to help humanity in reference to their part in the past Extermination fleet is rather heartwarming. Syba, the ever bubbly Sulean, pledging for the Suleans and Iftali, nice to see how far they’ve come after the Omnivore side story. The Verin and the Onkari, also having an omnivore species (Verin) also give their support. No surprise there. Wise words from Tassi, so glad she’s here to talk more sense into the SC. I think it’s safe to say the Bissem are with humanity, even if it’s coincidental to their own survival. The Paltan’s pledge is interesting. They did say they would come if needed, but that their military is mostly focused towards the KC and are best kept that way. Kinda weird since the SC (or the UN at least) signed a peace deal with KC. Maybe they just want to keep an eye on them. The Gojid are all in having already called for reinforcements. Full reversal of our first encounter with them. I have *feeling* about the Deurten specifically. Their ideology and harshness related to the Tellish is very off-putting, considering that the Tellish have completely stopped all aggression and have not harmed the Deurten. They still wish to kill all the colonists, without mercy. The Shield itself is an unknown that could blow up in the SC’s face. They seem to not understand that the Federation, whose ideology *let* people get eaten and kept as cattle, are not good people. I understand the Remnant existing and bowing to the Ghost Farsul, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Shield being passive or neutral ends up backfiring. Now the big factions to think about are the KC and the Sivkit. The KC are obvious, they were founded specifically to defend themselves against the Federation. With the Ghost Farsul being a now active presence and backer of the Remnant, the KC should turn it’s attention away from the Jaslip rebellion and instead focus on the Remnant. (If they aren’t being secretly controlled by the Ghost Farsul, like some are theorizing.) Now the Sivkit are a bit more interesting. They want to be isolationists and merely be left alone. However, they don’t like the Farsul in the slightest and now there is a new Federation being led by a more extreme group. If Loxsel is to be believed, they actually already found one base and Loxsel may have knowledge of more. In fact, I could see the Ghost Farsul attacking the Sivkits *because of Loxsel*. Him being active is a threat to them as far as we know. I’m looking forward to seeing how this all unfolds.

Daniel Lewin

First yay


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