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The Nature of Predators - The New Arxur (5/10)

🕑 Added 2024-09-11 11:00:09 +0000 UTC

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kabhes

They do need plants for the cattle farms though.

Neu5Ac

I really appreciate the added scene setting in this chapter. Small details, like how the village is being lit by the glow of the moon, or the stench of the gasoline, really help the world to feel real.

PhycoKrusk

@Elias Hey, that one's pretty good!

PhycoKrusk

Also an exceptional elitist.

EliasArt2Life

@PhycoKrusk “I'm not going to try arguing that Hossat is better, because even if he's actually done less damage with his plans, I think that's less because he wants to, and more because he doesn't need to.” Honestly, that’s why I’M saying his plan is better. Raza and her team are operatives on a mission. Raza is trying to take care of things that aren’t part of her mission, usually while putting their main mission at risk. Raza is not putting the mission first; she’s putting HER agenda first. Hossat is focused on the mission, and the mission alone. His own personal agenda can wait until AFTER. I would not call Raza a sledgehammer, though, since that suggests that she’s unaware of how wrong her plans are. Her inner monologue suggests that she IS aware of the potential blowback from her plans, and that they are not what she’s been assigned to do. She just suppresses it, and that’s why she has to justify it to herself. She DOES think ahead, she just warps her prediction to suit her own biases. She considers every way an alternate course of action could go wrong, convinced herself that she can’t take that risk, but doesn’t devote as much energy to considering what might go wrong with the plans she WANTS to do. In short, Raza’s not a sledgehammer; she’s a sniper rifle with a jiggling scope. She has the potential to be a great operative, but her aim is always off. And the solution is easy; replace the scope with a good one (recognize her biases, and choose to stop listening to them). However, that would require her to admit that she assembled her rifle with a faulty scope, never checked the scope to begin with, and used that faulty scope in many missions (admit that she’s biased, never questioned if she was biased, and let those biases interfere with her missions). She doesn’t seem ready for that. I just hope she gets ready for that before it gets her or someone else killed.

Gumcel

“I’d rather be the lowest pauper in one of Isif’s cities than to live in a place like this. We’re doing Tless a favor; the more of it that’s razed, the more of a chance these Sefturna savages have to build something less shitty in its place. It’s time this entire province joined civilization.” Least murderous arxur

PhycoKrusk

@Ashlin In part, that's because she's an elitist: She doesn't want to deal with the things she is being forced to deal with because they are "beneath her." Just like she didn't think twice about burning Tless to the ground; it was a shithole, and by forcing the residents to either rebuild or leave, she is doing them a favor. She thinks she's fighting for some grand furture for the Collective, but the reality is that she can't see beyond herself, and as a consequence, herself is the only thing she's actually fighting for.

PhycoKrusk

I did notice that too. It isn't just hate; Raza actually and legitimately believes that fighting for the Collective and living in a city, away from the dirt and stink of the countryside, elevates her above the (now former) residents of Tless. She doesn't feel bad about burning their village down, because it's a complete shithole and she's doing them a favor by making them homeless and displacing them, obviously. She is the "better" Arxur, and those moronic provincials owe her. I'm not going to try arguing that Hossat is better, because even if he's actually done less damage with his plans, I think that's less because he wants to, and more because he doesn't need to. But in comparison to Raza, he is a scalpel: He is precise, his plans are considered and thought through, and he doesn't engage in any more violence than he absolutely needs to (because violence causes a mess, and messes tend to attract attention). Raza is a sledgehammer: Her plans are straightforward, she only focuses on what is directly in front of her, and she doesn't think much more than a single order into the future (so she is actually surprised when something she does causes her trouble or completely backfires, because she never thinks ahead to how something like that could even happen).

Greg Gougeon

I am certain that the sniper will turn out to be a human . With the better snipeing skill than any arxur and the ability to traverse terrain no arxur seemingly can do.

REDemon14

True. Unfortunately for the "Betterment Remnants" they aren't fighting that war anymore

wraith dino

the whole needing farmers bit isnt as relevant if your military simply eats their enemies

Ashlin Ferguson

Yeah for someone that wants to interact with other sentients outside of the Arxur, Raza is demonstrating a complete lack of capacity for dealing with things outside of her little bubble of experience.

Shajenko

Also, Kaisal is just not a good choice for a leader. He was likely chosen by default, or even staged a coup that an extremely old Isif couldn't win against.

PhycoKrusk

I'm honestly starting to wonder if part of the reason Hossat is there is to evaluate Raza's progress. Unfortunately, I'm also starting to wonder if the Collective we see in 2160 is the result of them not being able to get their shit together, and failing to create a cohesive culture in the wake of this rebellion. What if the Arxur under Kaisal are merely unified, and not actually united?

PhycoKrusk

It's important to keep something in mind, however. Why did they lose their homes? Because of an out of control fire; intentionally set or not is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the only reason that fire was able to rage the way that it did is because Ilthiss is pouring almost all of his... region's resources into the war effort, and is leaving nothing for infrastructure development or, perhaps more critically, municipal services; Tless has no firefighters, nor even the resources to support the creation or administration of one. In fact, this is actually a significant morale and social victory for the Collective, and it's all but guaranteed that at least some of those displaced are now thinking to themselves that stuff like this probably doesn't happen under Isif; those cities of Arxur working together probably have bunches of specialized workers for handling situations exactly like this one. You win a war by forcing your enemy to give up and sign a peace treaty, and you force your enemy to give up by eliminating their capacity to wage war. Can you do that by destroying their factories and roads, and by killing their soldiers? Sure. But you can also do it by removing the will of their civilians to support the war. Maybe not all of these poor souls, and maybe not even a majority, but some of them are seriously considering if having to start over from nothing again and again is really worth it, when the option to start over from nothing only once and then build something more is standing right there. And mark my words, when you have no home, are constantly on the move, and are starving because what little food you manage to get is confiscated to feed the army, that other option starts to look really inviting....

PhycoKrusk

It wouldn't have, and objectively, he must be fully aware of this fact. He's also fully aware that parading around his much easier time is pissing her off, and that's funny.

PhycoKrusk

So, exactly what part of the Nevok homeworld is Hossat from? Outer Heaven?!

EliasArt2Life

I’m beginning to see Raza’s major struggle; emotional self-awareness. She can understand how she feels, but NOT when her feelings are overpowering her rationality. She fell into a trap because of her hatred of the Betterment’s eugenics, justifying the risk as “these Arxur (unarmed scientists) MIGHT see us if we don’t take them out, so we should kill them without checking if there are safer options/this isn’t a trap”. She fights constantly with Hossat, far more than he provokes her, and is inches away from killing him, despite him not actually doing anything that threatens the team other than rough words, while she’s willing to toss away his chances at survival. Finally, she opts to burn the village to the ground, without ever checking to see if there were more options, because she hate villages like this. “Imagine if a single fire wiped out the camps in the vicinity; that would be a massive victory for the Collective! My plans were better than Hossat’s, because they weren’t just self-serving; I’d go the extra step to dismantle enemy assets.” No, your plans are WORSE because you’re choosing what to do based on your emotions and old societal grudges, rather than what is ACTUALLY needed to survive and succeed.

Alekss Žukovskis

i mean, the whole NOP was an analogy to russia in a sense. 1. an uncaring cult-like government (moscow, Aafa) 2. a false narrative for war 3. cultural genocide 4. Russia wasn't mentioned even once in NOP, which means im validated in my headcanon of split russian states by 2037.

Elliott

Hossat does not care lmao

Apogee

Well Aruxur society sucks even worse then i thought under betterment. Though Zif is right that a rual quiet life isn’t bad, I certainly prefer it over the city but for different reasons. Just existing isn’t enough we need a larger purpose than that part of what makes us Sapiens

REDemon14

That mental image Hysran conjured of Hassat getting caught is glorious! The citizens live in huts so the military can be bolstered. Problem with that is that no military can survive a neglected populace. A kingdom of spears will starve if there are no farmers to feed them. Every arxur for themselves. Such a society could never thrive. I do wonder if the explosion itself would cause a fire. I'm not sure how Hossat's plan would have worked *without* Raza's plan to complement it. The other arxur hoped onto the vehicle because of the fire. And now the walking is taking a toll on the group. Bet they wish they had that human stamina at this point.

Jhon Bustamante

muy astuto

Alicja

I hope something nasty happens to hossat

DDDragoni

When in doubt, arson.

Shajenko

I think Raza is missing the point of this whole exercise with Hossat. If she really wants to go to these strange new lands, be in a position of leadership and open up the Arxur, she's going to have to interact with non-Arxur of all types. This is practice. And she's kind of squandering it.

un_pogaz

Well, little war crime for Raza for this house and the village. Frankly, it's just sad. The inhabitants of Tless, who have managed to live far from the majority of combat, have just lost their home. Their lives were miserable, and now they're even more so. And the non-interventionism of Ilthiss soldiers, or even worse, the extent to which they took advantage of the chaos to pillage, is really shitty. I know this wasn't the objective of your writing, but there's a huge parallel to be drawn between the Russian invasion of the Ukraine, and when the Ukraine invaded Kursk.

Michael Halpern

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