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The Nature of Predators 2-71

🕑 Added 2024-09-09 11:00:10 +0000 UTC

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PhycoKrusk

@Lvm The last point I'll add about Quana is the she doesn't just feel angry about the circumstances; she believes that she is being abandoned. She felt like Jaslips and Humans generally - and herself and Cherise in particular - were two peas in a pod. They would be best friends considering their circumstances. And then suddenly, Humans learn they get to pretend nothing happened. Whether real or perceived, she feels abandoned and like Humans (and Cherise) broke their promises. She might change her mind once she calms down, but in the moment, she isn't acting rationally.

PhycoKrusk

His goal here is building up Tellus so it can function as a staging ground and FOB for when the UN invades and conquers the Consortium. Think about it; for the UN being an organization that's starting to struggle to keep itself together, never mind keep the Coalition together, Hathaway talks a surprising amount about how Humanity "rules the galaxy." He's either plotting something, or has completely misapprehended the relationship of the UN to the rest of Orion-Cygnus.

Jhon Bustamante

los jaslip estan en muy mala posicion han sufrido mucho es de entender por que se sienten solos

Jhon Bustamante

violencia depredadora

Neu5Ac

Normally, I would be critical of everyone being so willing to eat Hathaway's bullshit, but this time it makes sense. They're probably so dumbstruck by the fact that Earth lives: even though he's trying to compel them to hang around as stepford smilers so he can maintain his power, they just lack the energy to climb on stage and rip him to shreds.

REDemon14

One billion didn't want to leave, but a good amount (around 4-6 hundred million) were forced off world. The rest were bombed during hibernation

DemonVee

“One billion stragglers that didn’t want to leave Esquo, but you know, the Krev saved us. Why are we so dramatic, right, Taylor? Those are amateur numbers. It’s actually okay, because 70% of us ended up on Omnol alive!” – Quanna

Alicja

Quana! Stop trying to bomb things it’s not nice 😡

EliasArt2Life

Well, Quana has snapped. This is quickly turning into Slanek 2.0, so I may be tuning her chapters out if she doesn’t get better. “Humans couldn’t always play the victim.” Excuse me? You’ve been playing the victim just as much. You’re doing it now; getting angry at humanity for abandoning the Jaslips, without waiting to see if they’re even going to. I mean, I get it’s hard to think clearly when hit by a pile driver like that, and she DOES have reason to be angry, but this is a little too much. She’s lashing out without checking to see if she might hurt someone who was trying to help her. I also don’t like how this is making her treat Cherise; right now Cherise is just about the only person who can pull Quana out of her downward spiral, and Quana looks like she intends to threaten to end their friendship unless Cherise goes along with her 100%. If this turns into a personal level version of the way other species have been treating humanity in this series… Hathaway DEFINITELY has an agenda. His reason for why people should stay didn’t sound persuasive at all. Build up Tellus so that the UN is convinced that you’re on their side? How does THAT prove your allegiance? How does that prove anything more than immediately dropping everything to go back to Earth and begging for forgiveness? What’s Hathaway’s goal here?

Some Lvm

I don't know... I do agree with your second paragraph and down, but I am really not sure about the first: The Tellus colonists really didn't have any luxuries until the Taylor / Gress incident, and while they have gotten some freebies from the Consortium once humanity was revealed, did Hathaway really get anything on a personal level he can't just keep by him self? My impression of him was that he was a completely incompetent though manipulative low grade politician who became a big fish in a small pond due to circumstances. I figured if he could get the colonists off his back and go live peacefully with what he got, he would, but I guess I was wrong... As for Quana, I think most if not all SP's characters are comprehensible, that is what makes his stories so compelling (at least to me), but understanding someone's motivations and having them being logical withing the context of the story, and sympathizing with that character are two different things. With NoP being all about how predators are not the real predators, Jaslips in general and Quana in particular seem to be a "counter point": violent and volatile, lashing out against people because of their racial association, not what they actually done. I get it: your life sucks, and you just found out it was all for nothing, but there is still a spectrum between "Oh well, lets make the best of it" and "lets murder anyone with scales".

Daru Arura

Having a role in a genocide does not leave you with clean hands.

Jhon Bustamante

entiendo el sentimiento de los jaslip su planeta fue destruido por nada y estan fuertemente reprimidos seguramente en su estado acepten unirse a los arxur y cometan ina locura

PhycoKrusk

It isn't that he likes power; he is surprisingly more complex than that. No, what he likes is _privilege._ He likes to have unlimited access to nice things; he likes to eat lavish meals and go on extravagant vacations; he likes it when people look at him and see a high roller. Power is just the easiest way for him to obtain those things, because if you want them and you have no power? You have to work for them, and you have to work hard. Hathaway has spent at least the last 23 years pawning off his work onto other people, then taking credit for the results. The man is a blister; he only shows up once the job's done, and then makes sure you never forget about him. Quana, while still a terrorist, is a comprehensible terrorist: She was born onto a planet that was not hers, has been mistreated and denigrated all her life even though she hasn't done anything wrong, and then when she finally meets somebody just like her who understands, Cherise gets a planet, a free end to any mistreatment, and the opportunity to pretend like it was all just a bad dream. She believes the universe is actively unfair to her specifically (evidence by everybody getting a happy ending except for her), so she's decided that since she can't do anything right, she may as well do everything wrong. Childish, sure, but consider the fact that until she met Cherise, she spent her entire life surrounded by psychopaths who only ever saw her as either a tool or an obstacle, and it's no wonder she never developed any real maturity.

Roscuro

Love that everyone realizing a lot of what they've been doing is meaningless eventually leads to the realization that war as a whole is meaningless.

Wholesome Redditter

That would be an improvement

Space Paladin

Hathaway could never admit that he presided over wrongdoings. The UN might punish him!

Jon Arbuckle

Or a passenger.

Gumcel

I don’t think it’s ever stated that they’re desert dwelling either.

Gumcel

Jaslips lost 300 million, not a billion.

Gumcel

He is the leader of a rapidly growing state, if everyone leaves he loses everything.

Gumcel

“I was too livid to put myself in her paws now, or even to ask about her feelings, but I’d be stupid to turn away someone willing to help the cause. A primate face had a much easier time slipping through Krev security, after all.” Oof, you can somewhat justify Quana’s shitty behaviour because she’s overwhelmed by the news, but ending with the conclusion that she shouldn’t alienate Cherish because she’s useful? Genuinely unlikeable moment for her. Also lol at: “Whatever Aulan asks. Anything!” If Aulan’s not a villain after all of this I’ll make krev document part 2 (for real this time).

Some Lvm

I knew it! From the very first lines describing Quana I smelled the terrorist on her! I was sure Mafani wasn't riding her for no reason, even if he was a bully. Although, I thought the gang would stop her before she got to the worst part of it. Instead - two got completely sidelined, and Cherise turned out to be a complete psycho... I can only hope she and her bestie slip and fall on some bullets soon... As for Hathaway, his speech is... A jumbled mess would be a kind way to describe it. Why is he so intent on keeping the settlers on Tellus? Is he so power hungry, he wants to hold on to his position as mayor at all costs? Does he think they will tolerate him now that they don't have to? That the UN will just leave him in charge? And did he seriously threatened miners with UN labor laws, after being a slave driver for 23 years???

Some Lvm

Honestly - I would have a hard time distinguishing the real Hathaway and GPT hallucination...

Anthony Mears

you thinking an android body with a Hathaway imprinted personality?

Anthony Mears

both sides do but that doesn't mean it's common knowledge

Anthony Mears

I imagine a brick would be stoic and stable, sodium in water on the other hand...

Jon Arbuckle

I don't think that's Hathaway.

Michael Halpern

The boarding party knew

PhycoKrusk

The main questions I would have for Hathaway would be; "Who is 'we'?" and; "What do you mean by 'rule'?" Because one glance at Orion makes it clear that there ain't no "we", and that the only things getting ruled are Jack and shit, and Jack shuffled off to Perseus a week ago.

PhycoKrusk

I didn't think anyone in the UN does.

PhycoKrusk

Cherise may not be at fault, but she _is_ in range.

PhycoKrusk

Who knows? There's a lot of important information that is apparently not being shared when it should be. For example, I'm not 100% sure that the wider Coalition actually even knows that Tellus is the Sivkits origin world.

DDDragoni

Hathaway's here desperately trying to spin this as an unequivocal win- I notice a conspicuous lack of acknowledgement that they killed innocents for nothing

DDDragoni

Quana doesn't know that, though- Hathaway just said "Earth survived!" Without mentioning how close it was. It's reasonable to assume it was untouched

DreamEnvoy

The break won't happen until after Chapter 72, so we have one more.

DreamEnvoy

"Wait…did we become extremists that bombed the Krev capital for nothing?" Yes. "The Consortium massacred Esquo for absolutely nothing, and holed us away in enclaves also for nothing!" Also yes. "I regret nothing we did, Cherise—they deserve worse." No, idiot. Trying to use this as a poor justification of your actions. Pouting over Cherise "going home". 3 POV chapters was all it took for me to come around to hate Quana. And the more I read, the more I dispise. It's impressive, given I'm usually biased in favor of anything fox-resembling. "Am I not good enough for you, now that my species is apparently alive?! What a crime. This is hitting me like a fucking tsunami, but you can’t even think about anyone but yourself.” Yeah, the sums Quana up quite nicely. "My hope is to get this world of ours accepted as one of Earth’s official colonies." I think the Sivkits might have something to say to that.

DemonVee

I'd say Tassi since they need someone in contact with the Sivcits

Elliott

I meant turncoat to the Krev, you can't just pledge your loyalty to someone have them fully uplift and pamper and defend you, and then go and say "nah I wanna leave and help the enemy we've been fighting". Personally if I was Meier I'd consider Krev membership into the SC before a Tellus human after that.

Swan

I'm curious who the UN are gonna send, and if we'll get their POV at some point, seeing their first couple days in KC space would likely be intressting (I don't think it'd be Meier, as he's got a lot of other shit on his plate atm, I guess you could use Dustin and Tassi? though the latter is on leave...)

DrewTheHobo

Wow Quana. Why does everybody have their head so far up their own ass all they ever thing and talk is shit? Bummer Hathaway lived though, some people just need to stay dead. Also did he know about the Jaslip babies? Dude didn’t prepare one iota for this important speech (but who’s surprised, he cant even be a human being).

Gavin Pierce

I think they set it up that Earth wasn’t even made aware what direction the arks were going(like everything was compartmentalized to each specific ark ship) even with their tech trying to find 1 ship or 1 planet if they landed in the entire galaxy is a hard task

Wingit98

You can see what Hathaway is really concerned about. He doesn't want people leaving. He likes being in charge, even referring to it as "ruling". But he doesn't want to rule over an empty city. I imagine he's going to try to keep people tied up on Tellus. And yes, Quana should be angry, but she's pointing that anger at entirely the wrong people. Cheries did nothing wrong, at least in this instance. And humanity as a whole did nothing wrong except not try to catch up with the Arks. The Consortium should let the Jaslips go without a fight. I know they won't, but they don't even like them anyway.

Aerowarrier

Even then, we haven’t heard anything about them even looking for the Ark ships. I’d have chalked it up to everyone who knew had died in the bombings, but multiple people on them had family members left behind, and it seemed like they were pretty well televised based on what the guy from the other miniseries said about getting onto the ship. So maybe we just haven’t seen any of the search for the ark ships, but it really seems like humanity just forgot they sent thousands of people out into the stars on the assumption Earth was a goner. And I don’t think there’s been any lines about the other ark ships at all, so I doubt this will be the first time some other alien force comes knocking for vengeance against a genocidal government they’re told wiped out at least one entire species by the supposed only survivors. Maybe the Farsul extremists got one, but there’s still another

Aerowarrier

Oh I missed that. They hate cold climates enough I just assumed :p

AnAbsoluteVillain

Why would he see a jail cell? His hands are clean.

Swan

Those UN diplomats are in for one hell of a ride; I get the feeling everything will already be chaos by the time they come in to clear up Hathaway's lies

AnAbsoluteVillain

I like Hathaway. Man has a vision. Priorities even. Nevermind the babies, were rich!

Michael Halpern

Hathaway doesn't know about the Skivits does he?

Alekss Žukovskis

SP said arxur are warmblooded

Bbobsillypants

The birds have had it to easy for too long. The tole must be paid.

REDemon14

I'm not meaning to compare, must want to point out that humans did indeed suffer. Quana seems to be going to the headspace that they didn't.

Byron Ritchie

Ok Hathaway is definitely going to be the main villain of the series or at least a major one

Byron Ritchie

It’s nop there is always eminent bird death! Unfortunately 😢… (I’m a huge bird lover)

DemonVee

Jaslips lost a billion too, unless it's viewed through a relevatistic lenses, their tragidies were on the same scale. It would be interesting tomsee how the jaslips react.

James

To be fair, the point of the Ark ships was that they couldn't be found. They were trying to save the species so the 3 ark ships did random jumps dozens of times for months. Trying to find ark ships that consisted of a few thousand peoples somewhere in the galaxy would have been a monumental task that could take hundreds of years. NOP doesn't span the entire galaxy, it's just a small section of the galaxy and it still takes a month of FTL travel to go across it.

James

That's no different then how people are today.....

Bbobsillypants

I sense eminent bird death

REDemon14

Hathaway, you absolute miserable bent of a bitch! The UN wants PEACE and you're here talking about RICHES? His spin on the situation is perhaps one of, if not THE, biggest complication on the KC side for the UN and I hope under Meier it sets him straight. The human yelling "We should switch sides", you motherfucker! The war is OVER. There are no sides anymore! Quana saying humanity can always make themselves or to be the victims is so ironic and hypocritical. "It's always about them!" She says as she makes it about herself. I wonder if her thoughts will change after she learns that humanity wanted to bring her people back as others protested, or that humanity tries to fix planets, or that humanity still lost a BILLION people. The Jaslips lost hundreds of millions in the Esquo bombing. If other jaslips feel the same as Quana, they are going to throw away the best chance to peacefully acquired independence; Humanity.

Daru Arura

Hathaway showing his true character speaking about Ruling the galaxy when he's going to be lucky to see beyond a cell if any kind of justice gets served.

Waffle man

Why does everyone in this story have the emotional maturity of a brick? IT really seems that way lately.

Anthony Mears

opening chapter of our villian narrative

Sci-fi reader

Free Mars! Ah, I mean … Free Jaslips!

Aerowarrier

Don’t worry Quana, Kaisal is gonna send as much of his fleet as he can spare to help you resettle your home after tearing the Consortium apart piece by piece. This is where we find out whether Aulan and the rest of the rebel higher ups are actually Jaslip extremists, or if they’re really working for the Underscales to further the narrative of Jaslips being dangerous and needing to be monitored. I could see it going either way, but he just knows too much. Course he could be getting info from Gress’ old contact, she seemed open to that sort of thing after the mess that was his last few cases

Aerowarrier

I mean saying they’re turncoats who stole a planet is a bit harsh. The UN sent them there themselves and then completely forgot about them, never sending an all clear message, and that planet has by all accounts been uninhabited for centuries. Also Hathaway is not the one to blame for that war starting. He may have been telling them to fire, but realistically his word meant very little considering he had just been made a member of the council like a month prior

Aerowarrier

I can’t wait to see the Arxur get into contact with Esquo’s Fighters. That’s gonna be a fun interaction. It’s also funny that all three of the obligate carnivore species are so vastly different in makeup. You’ve got the cold blooded, desert dwelling Arxur, the warm blooded, arctic roaming Jaslips, and the semi-aquatic, seafaring Bissem.

DemonVee

Think there will be one more before the break

Juan Daniel

I wonder how Quana and the rest of the Jaslips will react when they learn about the Jaslip breeding program and how Earth and humans are trying to rebuild their homeworld. Will they want to join the Species Coalition?

Mark Baculna

Nooo

Mark Baculna

2nd

Elliott

Jesus, you think the UN would want a bunch of turncoats who stole a planet and started the war by killing civilians? "Yeah the people who were just given giant rings and unlimited military protection who started the war by killing civilians, yeah let's let them back into Earth and keep Tellus as a colony!" Hathaway LIVE Execution 4K lethal injection memory transcript NOW.

Anthony Mears

what's more, they don't know about the UN Jaslip breeding program yet. that would have changed this reaction.

Conner Deese

Quana you empathy less moron, Hathaway you ever slimy politician both of you can go to hell, Clarisse get some therapy you have a lot to unpack

AlphaAllNight Gaming

Finally! Cherise and Quana are finally realizing that they suck an unholy amount of ass.

Fabian Feller

2nd hoo boy

Anthony Mears

1st I thought there wouldn't be a chapter today


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