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The Nature of Predators - The New Arxur (2/10)

🕑 Added 2024-08-31 11:00:09 +0000 UTC

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kabhes

Is nobl one mentioning the fact that Isif sits in a throne made from Arxur bones.

kabhes

He could have just made a single mistake that got him caught.

kabhes

I'll hope he's like the one from Monthy Python and the holy grail.

pogman

peak

Assailant

Isif: Please help this prey :D Zefriss: No. Isif: Please, help this prey. Zefriss: No. Isif: Help this prey. Zefriss: N- Isif: Not negotiating, do it or I throw you to the Nazis. Zefriss: >:( Isif: :)

Aured

This is going to be fun. These Arxur have no idea how predatory the capitalists can be

PhycoKrusk

Well, he's got no permanent address and is looking for work, so legally he's a murder hobo. ... and now there's four of them, so that is enough for a party! Murder hobos everywhere!

TheDudeAbides

Nevok... So he's a murder-rabbit?

PhycoKrusk

@Xilac Ok, fair enough that it may simply be skewed Arxur perception (although I suppose he _could_ be wearing leather shoes and a belt, or possibly a jacket). Truth be told, when someone says "wearing animal skins," my thoughts immediately go to Hercules wearing the Nemean Lion.

EliasArt2Life

@Xilacnog A duality that isn’t being accepted by others, which is what’s pushing us to hide those things.

Xilacnog

The exterminatus thing would be "funny" for the surprised Pikachu. The other point is arguably more important, it's absolutely fine for the ambassador to be a fearless hunter wearing leather and a skin cloak to show off their kills but also to gush over their kids soccer games; that duality is part of who we are.

Apogee

Mabey once they started to implement human policies they started to ‘notice’ that it wasn’t a predator attack it is not like it was hard to cover up such things before the humans came along

Bow-Tied Engineer

Clearly they aren't hiding much, if the ambassador feels comfortable gushing about his kid's soccer games. There's a difference between hiding things, and putting your best foot foreword. They just picked someone who is a hunter and a wilderness survival expert, and probably suggested he ham it up a bit, wearing a fur cloak or a coonskin hat or something like that. That's not hiding things any more than wearing your best suit to a job interview is.

Bow-Tied Engineer

Or just someone who leans into the stereotype. In the setting of NOP, I could see them having hunted large predators on various Federation worlds. I want to see a stereotypical British safari hunter who traveled the galaxy hunting down the largest and most threatening predators for the reformed Extermination offices. I mean, the description of him as a "wild man" seems to lean more towards an Appalachian mountain man vibe, but I think it would be so funny if he's actually a very well muscled and slightly portly British gentleman who's been hunting the strongest and most violent beasts he can find across the galaxy, before settling down on Wriss to be the face of Humanity.

EliasArt2Life

@Xilacnog Me being frustrated and seeing a lack of acceptance by other species is in NO WAY me advocating for genocide. I’d think that if you read any of my other comments on other chapters, it would become very clear that I’m almost hopelessly pacifistic. And @everyone, Yes, I understand that not EVERY species is this way. I just didn’t want to lengthen my comment even longer by listing those exceptions. Especially when those exceptions include the Yotul, who have become fierce rivals of humanity, and are constantly trying to seize power from us, and the Bissem, who don’t trust us and are trying to develop a new alliance under our noses without inviting us to have anything to do with it; a Carnivore Alliance which has 3 herbivores, but not humanity. Also, the Reskets and Jaslips, who we are currently at war with, and our relationship with them is currently unclear. Also, just to clarify something that I didn’t mention in my original comment; I’m not saying that things can’t get better. I AM saying that things WON’T get better unless all the species involved decide to attempt to change, rather than holding onto the idea that they can stay the same.

Joe bro

Love the description of the diplomat. Hoping he looks like friggin' Saxton Hale.

Kevo

Think of the Resket and Jaslips, they see us objectively

Aerowarrier

I mean it’s not like they view Hensa that way. A closer comparison would be turtle. Some people keep them as pets but others see them as a tasty stew

Xilacnog

It's often done for storytelling or maybe Hossat is that good that he got the target and managed to escape the ambush.

Xilacnog

@PhycoKrusk, I'm not so sure about the animal skins, could have just been the Arxur perception of clothes. That said, I can definitely see any human ambassador in Wryss using crocodile leather belts and shoes.

PhycoKrusk

Being fair, it was synthetic hensa, so they could truthfully claim that the Yotul were overreacting. I would certainly raise objections to someone eating Labrador even if I knew for a fact it had been cloned and was not from an actual dog.

PhycoKrusk

Honestly, doing everything in half-measures and failing to actually commit to anything is exactly the sort of behavior I expect from the UN. It's like a person who rails against vanity, but goes to great lengths to conceal a facial blemish because they're self-conscious about it; hypocrisy, as you say. Truth be told, the ambassador probably could have gotten away with the taxidermy and gushing about his kid's soccer game if he wasn't also wearing the animal skins; the Arxur aren't stupid, and would know good and well that Humans don't regularly dress like that. Then again, treating others as if they were all dangerously stupid is another behavior I expect of the UN. Just goes to show that war and politics never change; out-of-touch elites using the rest of us like disposable pieces to be moved about the board as they please. This is probably why so many of us like Isif. We _know_ that he doesn't care about the individual pieces he uses and discards in the pursuit of his vision, but we let it slide because unlike the UN he does it without pretense; the only thing that matters to him is his vision for the future of Wriss, he doesn't care how many lives he needs to sacrifice to get there, and he doesn't act like reality is anything other than that.

PhycoKrusk

Hm... unlikely. Trying to tie off a loose end in that fashion invariably creates more loose ends.

Xilacnog

SP, if you ever get the Human Ambassador to appear and talk, I really REALLY hope it's a British that wears a Pith helmet and used to hunt in Africa (maybe a human from the Archives?)

Xilacnog

Or he was setup? It could've been his own corp setting them up

Xilacnog

It's also well known, for humans at least, that a human can both be extremely caring for his family and friends and extremely cruel to non-sapients and enemies.

Xilacnog

So, what should humanity do? Exterminatus every species that does it? Could be my perception but Bissems and Yotul also don't see humans that way; I doubt that the Krakotl do too. Maybe most species try to shoehorn humans into known boxes exactly because they don't interact with humans enough.

Daru Arura

Needs more banjo

Kevo

The UN sent the south USA ambassador to Wriss, I imagine he has a magnificent mustache, aliens need to party more with us to have a understanding

EliasArt2Life

“If you’d ever talked to one of those chatterbox apes, you’d know. Their ambassador isn’t fooling anyone, wearing animal skins around and mounting stuffed heads on their embassy’s walls. Pretending to be some tough, wild man, until you accidentally get him talking about his kid’s ‘soccer’ games. Dreadful!” Aaannnnddd once again, the hypocrisy of it all. The UN is hiding major parts of humanity to try to appeal to the Arxur. They see through the bluff, and dislike the deception, but simultaneously are disgusted at the glimpse of what humanity is hiding, calling it “wrong”. On one hand, the herbivores are never going to see beyond humanity’s predator side, and treat us like predators who just so happen to be somewhat compatible with them. On the other, the Arxur are never going to see us as anything but prey who have a few acceptable traits. And maybe the Krev will never see us as anything but adorable pets who have a few traits that make us like people. Everyone is trying to shoehorn humanity into something they know, instead of treating us like something unique and different. Well, the Venlil seem to get it. The Zurulians too. Those guys are the good ones. I don’t think Isif’s plan is as simple as he’s making out. He admitted it himself; Raza’s team is one of the most cohesive and successful. So, why not hand the Nevok off to another team? Even if his mind is going, it can’t have gone THAT much. There’s more going on that Isif isn’t saying.

PhycoKrusk

He's something to consider: We know that Hossat failed to cover up one of his sanctioned hits. How? Why? He's had several other successes, as the narrative implies, so it's not like he didn't know how to cover it up, or to at least make sure it didn't get traced back to him. So, what happened? Was his intel incomplete? Did he get sloppy? Did he fail to cover it up on purpose?

PhycoKrusk

He's got one failure to several successes, and the only reason he failed is because someone found out it was him. See below.

Gumcel

Ok I was joking about the hossat sniper thing but if it’s inaccessible by arxur it might actually be an alien lol. And eating hensa meat? What are they stupid? Just eat beef? Alienating one of the few friendly states just so you can eat space cats? Average arxur only capable of thinking about food smh.

PhycoKrusk

Would you eat cloned Labrador meat? That's honestly the more relevant question.

Roscuro

For sure, I'm morally against eating lamb. But if it was lab grown instead of slaughtered, I would definitely have gyros and the like more often.

Wholesome Redditter

Hell there’s a sub genre of cloning fed species for meat

George Smith

Look up EXACTO rounds. DARPA started researching that in 2008 and there’s videos of the test and it working from 2015

George Smith

I mean, if you think about it once you get the ability to get any sort of meat ethically people will start trying a bunch of random stuff. They probably never would’ve previously. Like I would never eat a whale but if you clone the meat, sure I’m down.

George Smith

I mean, depending on how long he’d been doing it failing a mission might not be the end. I’ll be all. You play the game long enough eventually something happens.

Dookus Maximus

This story took a turn. I can understand why the team is against working with Hossat, but I suspect they'll come to view him as a useful tool in their hunt for the Sniper. And if he's truly a sociopath, he'll probably be as interested in befriending them as they are. One concern I have is that we already know Hossat failed a previous mission, which makes me question Isif's wisdom in taking him on so readily. Some interesting ideas from others about who the Sniper could be. There isn't enough information yet to really say who it could be, but I like the idea that they are a fellow merc that Hossat has history with.

REDemon14

Raza's desire for light and warmth is a certified reptile moment :3 Senior Siffy! Glad to see he lives. Poor guy should have had the chance to retire, but the youngens decided they want to do stuff so hear he is. Zefriss's mindset is exactly why he's the one following orders instead of giving them. Very short sighted. If they investigate the pass and find the Sniper, they can track them and perhaps blow them to kingdom come. If the sniper turns out to be a myth, then they can share that with Siffy's side, which will boost morale. Also constantly back talking is gonna get him in trouble one day. They also don't seem to understand that a man of the wilderness can love his son too. Someone should tell him that expecting everyone to be a caricature is fed-brained. That'll shut him up. So he eats cloned hensa in front of a yotul, and no one told him about "trolling"? A sociopathic Nevok, huh? This should be interesting. Especially since he has a kill count. Isif's main goal is to show that Arxur won't eat people anymore, if the other races kill arxur, they shouldn't be complaining about Isif taking him in. I can see why Raza and Hysran are upset about having a sociopath on the team since they seem to be mentally "defective". So the Arxur had a mountain civilization. That's kinda neat actually. Can't wait to see how the meeting Hossok.

Alekss Žukovskis

someone mentioned guided bullets, and yeah: drone technology keeps on advancing, not too difficult to put a computer on a bullet with wings and motors, but none of that was found after bullet analysis.

Elliott

We're definitely not as successful as psychopaths. Most aren't high-functioning either and can be pretty solitary and violent depending on the person. In all likelihood I think he'll end up being the latter if he was a hitman. Though I'm interested to see what his dynamic with the squad will be.

Kevo

I’d like to hear more about this human ambassador lol

DDDragoni

Isif! So good to see you again! I can't imagine a throne of bones is comfy, but it sends a hell of a message

Aerowarrier

Isif has a point that the quarantine really only cares for keeping them in. Presumably this is the first person to willingly travel to Wriss so the people on duty were probably very confused xD

Aerowarrier

Hmm. While I absolutely agree that taking in a sociopathic Fed hitman is not exactly a good diplomatic move, it will definitely be good to bring him in as a sort of military informant. He’s gonna have very different views and abilities compared to Arxur, and that will likely prove useful for finding someone I’m sure is also pretty “defective” if they’re willing to kill that prolifically from afar. Hopefully this guy still has some level of empathy, since Isif said it’s similar to sociopathy, not that it actually is. If they’re lucky, he’s just have the same thing as the Exterminator PR rep from Human Exterminators, but I doubt that will be the case

Clippy Clippy

Cloned Hensa meat??? 😭😭😭

Neu5Ac

I think if it was a guided bullet, they would have mentioned it in the ballistic reports. Actually, they might have noticed rifling marks too, which hurts my theory that the Arxur lack rifling. Then again, they might also dismiss the grooving in the bullets as a quirk of the firearm and not make the connection that they improve accuracy, so it's still within reason.

Bjorn Ironblood

I don't see Betterment working with feddies that openly unless things have significantly changed. A human mercenary theyed at least see as being somewhat predatory so they might accept one. Also this feels like a reference and the snows gonna start speaking finnish

un_pogaz

So, that a Nevok. At least, if Hossat was capable of working as a mercenary, that means he's at least "functional", and that's better that nothing. And the announcement of this new member went badly, but's hard to blame them, it's a very bold thing Isif did today. It's going to be great to see Raza and Zefriss find out they're wrong.

AnAbsoluteVillain

He is going to give them the cooties. 😅

DemonVee

That's not the most telling part, I'm sure even an Arxur would put on some environmental coat. What is, is that it's supposedly near impossible for an Arxur to climb, while Humans remain as extremely compitant climbers with some practice. Im guessing they'll find a surprisingly small figure moving across the pass with unexpected haste for them. We'll have hired sociopaths fighting on both sides.

Michael Halpern

Could also be a guided bullet.

Michael Halpern

Im going to bet a Finn.

DreamEnvoy

Is it me, or does Zefriss seem old fashioned. A nevok, huh. We don't get much focus on their species. I thought I heard that sociopaths tend to be successful people, but I realize I may be confusing them for psychopaths. Even so, the suggestion of making Hossat a mercenary may work. Though I feel like his survivability as a Wriss citizen should be tested before being placed in war, despite that being where he would be most comfortable.

Neu5Ac

Regardless of whether he's a human or not, I think he's almost certainly using a human weapon. I imagine Fed and Arxur weapons are unrifled, both are poorly adapted for dealing with distant enemies and rifling is not at all an obvious way to stabilize a bullet. Even for humans, it was not immediately obvious that rifling was a good idea; we put "soot grooves" in muskets for centuries before thinking to add a twist, and the only reason we did that was because people who fletched their arrows wrong discovered they actually went further if the fletching made the arrow spin. Why would aliens ever think to spin stabilize a projectile if they've spent most of their history thinking 100 meters is the upper limit of infantry combat? the sniper is taking out targets in excess of 1,600 meters. At those distances, shooting is less about depth perception and more about math and having good equipment. He could be an alien, since looking through a x12 or more scope doesn't change much if your eyes are forward or side facing, but he'd need a very precise gun: probably something with a floating barrel and match-grade ammunition. Even if the aliens have invented rifling, I can't imagine they've gone to those lengths for accuracy.

Anthony Mears

that and the fact that humans known for their targeting computer like abilities and the use of "strange crystals" mounted on their guns. hard to think of a human supporting the other side of this fight though

Michael Halpern

the only reason I can see Liberty's Bastion to use Flouresents over LED or HID or whatever comes next is for additional heating,

Jonathan Cardoso Mota

No, no. I'm thinking the sniper is a *letian*. Letians also have great depth perception, they're natural climbers (they build their cities in mountains, even!) AND they can fly (well, glide) silently. Plus, I absolutely want Hossat to finally meet the sniper and *recognize* them because they worked together in the past.

Neu5Ac

It probably would have been smarter for Isif to let some of the Arxur get acquainted with Hossat before assigning him to any teams. Perhaps he's desperate to stop the sniper and thinks Hossat is just the guy, or maybe he's simply getting jaded and impatient in his old age. I wonder if he'll bring his own Fed weapons, or if he'll try to use what the Arxur have. I mentioned in the last chapter that the Arxur might not have developed rifling, and the same might be true for the Federation as well given their limited depth perception: on that note, he might wind up borrowing the human ambassador's hunting rifle instead.

Byne

Still thinking the sniper is probably a human merc. An icy pass where no arxur could survive and the human is like 'bro just wear a jacket'.

Elliott

Nevok sociopath? Oh SP I'm flattered you'd write me in but really you shouldn't have! Kidding, but on a more serious note we really haven't gotten any Nevok insight so even from a literal outcast's perspective this should reveal loads of information if he's even a bit of a social-antisocial yapper like me. I feel like he's probably going to end up clicking with Zefriss more though judging from his background.

Swan

Didn't think traders were to visit the Axur, good to know

Tyler Ellis

There so back!

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