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The Nature of Predators - The New Arxur (1/10)

🕑 Added 2024-08-28 11:00:08 +0000 UTC

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kabhes

Well not just one child, more that he was the straw that broke the camel's back. He had been killing people for a while.

Some Lvm

@Phyco: well, if you are going to be all realistic like about it... That is how things works, isn't it? If you are the kind of government that actually cares about the legitimacy of your wars in the eyes of others, you need an excuse. Like freeing some country of communism. Or stopping them from using WMDs. Etc. But the excuse you choose still speaks volumes about you, even if it is only an excuse. Would a Batterment Arxur really need an excuse at all?

PhycoKrusk

We may have a difference of opinion here, but I disagree that Isif decided to roll tanks to save a child. It is my opinion that he rolled tanks because there were regions that were all but in open rebellion, but there wasn't much he could do about it because they were supposed to be autonomous regions. The planned execution of a child simply gave him the pretext he badly needed, because _now_ it's not a matter of Isif ignoring promises of autonomy, but of enforcing the laws that Ilthiss and Usliff had agreed to follow and were deliberately breaking. But that's neither here nor there, because it is the Coalition's discussion of Arxur confinement that matters more than ours, and in the Coalition's discussion, all that matters is that the suffering of a single innocent was what took the Collective government from "Your autonomy is our highest priority" to "Cowabunga it is then."

Neu5Ac

Oh man, pulling out museum pieces! I'd love to see how a human would react to seeing the Arxur equivalent of an M4A3 Jumbo trundling down the road, especially since they would know what a modern tank would with 200 years of development over the Arxur model would be like.

Guardian

Hahaha, "eating good"; I see what you did there.

TheBlack2007

@Some Lvm, Shaza did eat a human to prove a point to Giznel (not knowing he already signed her death warrant and sent Isif to execute it) but her crew was having none of it and mutinied about the same time Isif showed up to take command over her forces. It's still not much of a stretch to think particularly famished Arxur might try to go after a human, but mostly even those firmly in line with Betterment didn't go that far.

Daru Arura

I got crabs!?!?

Some Lvm

@TheBlack2007: to be fair, some of the more radical Arxur have been know to it humans as well. Remember whats her face Chief Huntress that was sent to the UN in pieces after her forces rebelled and handed her over to some enthusiastic UN soldiers?

Some Lvm

Isif sent a tank battalion to save a child??? Let that sink in people, and remember it next time we discuss Arxur freedom in the main story!

Wingit98

That is exactly what I was imagining. It's not her fault she has to start from scratch rediscovering comedy for her entire species. It would be the Arxur equivalent of Tarva's daughter rediscovering running and competition for her's.

Matěj Habarta

I mean, I see some Yotul or Venlil merc hating betterment enough to risk it. Epecially the cured ones, say a Venlil whose parent was sapient cattle.

TheBlack2007

I can see humans but considering the enemy is betterment, using any prey species in any capacity that would put them in direct enemy contact would be incredibly reckless since you’re risking them getting eaten alive.

Space Paladin

I will try to update tonight

Matěj Habarta

It'd be intersting if Isif employed mercenaries or secret spec ops from SC. Like say Yotul, Venlil and Human mercs. Epecially since the reformed Skalgans would love to take on some of the old betterment forces.

Aured

Yay! I'm excited to see what the Arxur have been up to.

Iris Rodriguez

Hi, haven't read this one yet. Just commenting here since unsure if you get notifications on Patreon. Could you please update the stories list on the "Welcome from Space Paladin" page? I'm catching up and noticed that stories such as "Venlil Foster Brother" isn't there, along with some other recent ones. It makes navigating here so much easier. Thank you!

un_pogaz

I hope that humanity has helped to hide these fights. Another option is that it would be tragically ironic if humanity didn't help the Arxur because their were hiding their predicament too well. And now that you point out it, with this recent uprising still fresh in everyone's memory, I understand better the Kaisal's virulence about "humanity never helping the Arxur and abandonne us".

PhycoKrusk

Honestly, I would prefer the latter, especially a Venlil. Lambo: First Cud (It's fine, Hysran said that I could!)

PhycoKrusk

It would be a waste of finite resources; better to use those resources to get spies into the government and quietly sabotage efforts to get their act together. A rebellion is too loud, too messy; breaks too many eggs. For all the things I dislike about Jones, she's not a sloppy cook.

PhycoKrusk

... know what? After the Battle of Earth, Zhao's entire outlook was, "Not one more," in reference to Human lives lost at the whims of autocrats. And here is Isif, saying, "Not one more," in reference to the culling of "defectives" at the whims of autocrats. We have come full circle.

PhycoKrusk

The grizzled veteran who's trying to set an example, but who also knows he's got one more fight left in him and wants to die in battle so he can go to Valhalla.

PhycoKrusk

There's primarily three reasons that "tanks" would be developed: 1) The need to resist machine gun fire while crossing contested terrain in order to eliminate emplaced weapons so that infantry can follow (heavy tank/land ship) 2) The need to rapidly move large cannons around the battlefield to provide short-ranged artillery support, replacing dragoons (light tank/self-propelled field gun) 3) The need to constantly move machine guns or small cannons around the battlefield, especially to target and harass the enemy's flanks while looking for an opportunity to punch through their formation, replacing calvary (armored car/infantry fighting vehicle) So far, the Arxur haven't demonstrated any great propensity for siege warfare, so my money would be on option 2 or 3, leaning more heavily towards 3 given that an ambush predator would naturally favor hit-and-run over stand-and-fight.

Space Paladin

Siffy is forever a chad!

Space Paladin

The horror!

Space Paladin

Jones is many things, but she usually doesn’t do stuff that goes against (what she perceives as) humanity’s interests!

Space Paladin

Hm, I’d think of them as old-school kinetic siege tanks, since it’s stuff they’re bringing back from before Fed days in their final world war before first contact. Back to their roots!

Space Paladin

Hysran would adore that! She’d probably want to perform at one, though she might bomb with a human crowd 🤣

Space Paladin

It’s been a long time! This should be the deepest exploration of their culture we’ve ever had; even more than Siffy’s main storyline! Arxur fans gonna be eating good 😅

Space Paladin

Thank you! Lots of fun stuff to explore ahead! 🙏

Liam Heston

Ooo this is promising, Way to go SP.

EliasArt2Life

The SC never once mentioned these fights… something tells me that humanity had a hand in making sure they didn’t find out. Smart. Isif is right that they’d take it as proof of the Arxur’s violent nature, and hold it against them. But I’ve got to say, it’s really sad to see this. This is an ideological battle between the Betterment’s “Arxur and strength first, only rely on yourself” beliefs, and the Collective’s hopes for equality and unity with other species while simultaneously moving AWAY from the strength and “predatory” traits that made up the Arxur for so long. Simply put, the SC SHOULD be on the Collective’s side, but wouldn’t be. In this war, the ones fighting for the belief for friendship with others finds itself alone as those “others” watch on. Even if Isif wins, it doesn’t prove his point as much as reinforce the Betterment’s stance that only strength matters.

AlphaAllNight Gaming

Lmaooooo

DemonVee

Linguistic convergent evolution... All language in the Galaxy, in some way or form, eventually turns into English. This means that English = crabs.

Gumcel

Crack pipe theory: that nevok character you mentioned is the sniper. Source: dude just trust me But more importantly: “I have more. What did the sword say to the tliskis crystal?” “Take a break,” Zefriss and I growled at the same time. These damn arxur are speaking English man, even the aliens are becoming anglophones smh. Either that or the person who translated this transcript decided to translate the joke into something completely different to have it make sense. Or coincidentally these words have the exact same meanings which allows this pun to be made in both English and the arxur language. Gumcel try not to focus on an unimportant line of dialogue for one post challenge (2024 degree of difficulty: impossible)

DefaultyTurtle

Escape from Wriss

Wholesome Redditter

Watch as Jones becomes the boogeyman of Arxur society

T___

I think, being obligate carnivores, the Arxur get their nutrients, vitamins, fat acids, and trace elements almost purely from meat. Pre-slaughter stress reduces the quality and composition of those. A (rather recent) learned preference to adrenaline, cortisol etc. does not change the nutrient content.

Assailant

I can’t wait for Hysran’s inevitable death! I know you’re going to do it, SP, you can’t fool me!

Seamus

Love the arxur POV’s!

Neu5Ac

I wonder if the Arxur developed suppressors on their own or if they got the tech from the humans. Or possibly, they may have had them, lost the tech, and redeveloped it after encountering humanity. I suspect the latter: if they use internal combustion vehicles (and I believe they do given Kaisal's disdain for the electric tractor), they probably have mufflers, and an engine muffler and gun silencer are practically the same thing. On the note of weapons, I'm willing to bet the Arxur use high caliber, smoothbore weapons: larger rounds have some inherent stability so are fine unrifled at shorter ranges, and larger rounds can dump their energy on impact more quickly, making them better for wounding and maiming. If that's true, then I have to wonder how they reacted after shooting a human in the plate carrier with the Arxur equivalent of a smoothbore .44 Magnum carbine, only to watch him sit up and shoot back. And yay, tanks! I wonder what unique design features they might have? Do they use a kinetic weapon for their primary gun, or do the have small plasma railguns? Are the turrets manned or unmanned? I'm willing to bet they're designed to favor speed and milage over armor, given the nature of their fighting over the centuries. Then again, maybe they're more like siege tanks, with thick armor and massive howitzer cannons for busting into heavily defended bunkers. I'm excited to get a description of one.

E Martinez

It contradicts what we know of her motives

DDDragoni

It's been 20 years since the last story, so he would have been in his mid-50s then

Wingit98

Oh damn, he was way older in the previous story than I realized. I thought he was like mid 40s or 50s and that was considered elderly to the Arxur.

Wingit98

I really do hope this generation of Arxur gets to join wider society one day just so that these specific Arxur can visit a comedy club and see some stand-up.

Elliott

Prediction: Either the Sniper is a CIA goon merc, or a random cattle survivor who found a gun and is taking shots at any Arxur they see. Only use one eye to see through a scope after all.

Elliott

Give me non-CIA proof the Betterment rebellion wasn't Jones-funded. I'll wait.

Alekss Žukovskis

okay, hear me out. the humans land on Krev planet in diplomatic garb with the whole UN plastered all over them and talk about how they brought Feds to their knees. Krev think its Theater and cheer them on. UN doesnt realize that, leave a bomb of a statement *flies away* everyone continues going about their way

DDDragoni

Oh God. The Arxur may have stopped eating people, but now they've developed an even worse form of depravity- *puns*

DemonVee

Plot twist, Siffy not using electronics traumatized Jones back, resulting in her memory scanning fiasco with Tassi 🤯

REDemon14

Also, something I forgot to note. Isif started the conflict in the name of saving a single arxur child. That is development

DemonVee

Heh, now an Arxur themed Enemy at the Gates would be class, but I doubt Maya would return to combat due to her ptsd discharge (Unless her ptsd was solely about abandoning Kaisel than the combat, than it might be an incentive.)

Space Paladin

Can always be used for fanfics going forward, or even going back! 😅

Space Paladin

In his mid seventies by this point!

straw salmon

YES MORE ARXUR LORE 🤩 Also i gotta ask how old is isif in human years?

Thrownawaz

So!... Is Raza seeing anyone?

Byron Ritchie

Something tells me something bad happens to isif in this series

REDemon14

Her* but same :)

Neu5Ac

In fairness, Arxur are obligate carnivores. It may be that they're immune to the diseases brought on by stress in animals and that the flavor is improved by their tastes by them being stressed out.

REDemon14

Understandable. If be traumatized too, having to deal with *that woman*

DreamEnvoy

You set the scene of a battleground during a Betterment rebellion and our group up against a highly skilled sniper, only for the tension broken by Hysran's "bad" jokes. I like him already.

Michael Halpern

damnit Jones

Fergon

I think they're using messengers, because Isif got traumatized by Jones. Can't hack the transmission, if there's no transmission.

Fergon

Now that you mention it, Maya was sniper. Hmm 🤔

Sci-fi reader

A PMC owned by a former chef?

Sci-fi reader

Nice. An Arxur Syria! Please don't kill off Hysran.

un_pogaz

Yes. Yes! YES! A story in the Arxur Collective!!!! And Yes. Yes! YES! Exactly what we want from the Collective!!! I don't have the words to say how much of it's a pleasure to see the Arxur act like people and not like psychopaths bogeyman on the verge of ripping each other's throats out. All their interactions are so human, so normal, fucking YES!!! And Damn, what a force it was to learn that Isif had taken in several "defectives" under his protection and raising them as his own children, but also preparing them to be potential future leaders. Fucking Chad! Else, who isn't surprised by Ilthiss's betrayal? Besides, as horrible as it is to see certain people trying to perpetuate Betterment, we can note that this uprising is relatively limited and that the main risk is that information leaks out. The Collective is holding up well overall. For the reason Raza is recalled, you had shared that this story implie a Predator-Diseased ex-Feddie Sociopath, so little suspense. But of what species... I'm curious. It's going to be strange for Raza to find herself the liaison agent for such individual. However, the fact that you mention the sniper in the A/N suggests that this plot will probably come back. Will our new 'Prey' friend prove useful in flushing out a hunter? I'll make a note of that.

REDemon14

Raza was/is very brave to stand up to her mother at such a young age. Did he mother not get the memo that Siffy doesn't kill detectives? 2154 and the Arxur are forced to use WW1 style Runners. Very interesting. A sniper with over 100 kills? Quite impressive. Considering that in actual war, snipers have the clearest view of the battlefield *and* their kills, I'm not surprised the Arxur do have snipers. "To cull the masses!" Ok. That got me XD Betterment Arxur really don't know that the "purest bloodline" can still give birth to an individual with a mutation huh? (That our they just don't care) The torture chambers right across from the cafeteria. Morbid. I personally never understood the whole "Make them suffer before/as we eat them" mindset in some settings. Humans discovered quite a bit ago that an animal that suffered before being "harvested" actually makes poor quality meat and increases the risk of disease due to the abundance of stress hormones. That's why some of the best meat on Earth is "humanely" acquired from a relatively happy animal that has plenty of space, kept healthy, and is treated well. Raza and co. are saved! Now to see what Siffy needs of her. Very interesting to see an arxur war, since what they've been doing over the past few centuries has been over-complicated hunting if we're being honest

Swan

Your idea sounds the most plausible; but I kinda like the idea of it being some fed exterminator who just wants to kill Axur (they are actually killing both sides, but the collective doesn't realize) Edit: Maybe it is actually a human doing it with the same motivation

PassengerNo

I like Hysran's jokes! “Why did Betterment remove the heaviest elements from the periodic table? To cull the massese.” lol

DemonVee

Ooo, I was waiting for something like this for a long time. That sniper is an awful good shot for a group that is reverent of close combat, and I imagine would see snipers as cowardly. I have a feeling that a certain flavour of Human mercs no longer found fun on Earth once peace became more wide spread, smuggling themselves to Wriss and not caring who they fight for, or for what cause. Raza seems interesting, it's interesting to see Arxur that haven't been raised under oppression, not to the same extant anyway. I imagine she'll make an appearance in the main series down the line if she's really aspiring to be second in command. (Hope that Maya appears somehow...🙄)

Byne

Shots from a mile away would be less than half the current human record. I'm thinking Betterment has some human mercs.

Quiidek

I knew this was gonna be epic. Civil conflict breeds the bloodiest of battles. I bet there's gonna be some crazy shit.

Sroni

So a mere 6 years before the Bissem first contact, Wriss was a warzone, and Isif was still alive. And in just a few short years, they have rebuilt their planet, and thier fleet.

Swan

damm, I'm curious if this conflict is still going on in 2160

BiasMushroom721

Holy shit. We actually getting Wriss lore. Fuck I needed this like a month ago! Muh fanfic man!

Quiidek

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Rusty Deviant

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pogman

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