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The Nature of Predators - Nova's Children (10/10)

🕑 Added 2024-02-07 12:00:05 +0000 UTC

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pogman

It seems the vengeful soul has found solice in family

Some Lvm

This is such a nice, heart warming chapter! I've been thinking recently that the way NoP 1 turned out was, how can I put it gently - unsatisfying. It felt to me that humanity overall did not value the billion dead, they, and more importantly the billions of friends and loved ones left behind to grief them, never got justice, and overall humanity showed the galaxy it does not value the lives of its members. While the writing was superb and the politics realistic, I found my self wishing for a version where humanity had just straight up join the Arxur after the battle for earth, or at the very least had the decency to glass Aafa and the Farsul home world (keep forgetting is it Talsk of Fahl?). This chapter though, it somehow helps dispel those thoughts...

Some Lvm

Reading the first part of this chapter reminded me of a short story by Arthur C. Clarke called "The Start". It starts with "It is three thousand light-years to the Vatican." I won't spoil the rest, but lets just say Tarva would be terrified :P

I finally got around to catching up on things, and this story has been a lovely epilogue to Noah and Tarva's story. The odd quirks of such a family are very entertaining, even if Tarva herself is (understandably) overprotective. It felt like a bit much, but it makes sense. The introductory bits felt like a very refreshing change that gave complementary insight into their characters and the ramifications of growing up as the children of such important figures. The only thing I would have liked to see more of would be Ari picking up odd habits from Venlil like Elia did from Humans, especially since his conflict involved not feeling quite Human. Overall, a lovely side story, and one that leaves me in high spirits as NoP 2 progresses. (:

It's combining their names. No from Noah + va from Tarva = Nova. This is commonly done by fans of series "shipping" characters that aren't canonically in a relationship. Given that context, it wouldn't surprise me if Nova is what fans were calling them long before their relationship became canon.

Kilo Rat

I'm embarrassed to ask, but why is this called Nova's Children? The parents are Noah and Tarva

Space Paladin

Thank you!

Alicja Pielichowska

Noah is so wholesome

SimpleArtist

In Latin América and some parts of Europe, we celebrate the 24th :)

PhycoKrusk

... bravo. Seriously, well done. You just made me realize those "implications": Modded Venlil are an extinct species. Not now, obviously, but it's only going to take a few generations, and I think Tarva is struggling very, very hard to ignore that fact. For the Federation's grip over the Venlil to be truly erased, modded Venlil and, by extension, Tarva and everything she grew up knowing must necessarily die. All progress is built upon a foundation of corpses; this is no exception.

Byron Ritchie

Pretty wholesome ending I hope tarva learns to chill but I understand it’s due to what happened to her first child so I won’t blame it on her

Edmund Lam

Or ham.

Edmund Lam

This is great. Wonder what becomes of the kids in NOP2.

Aured

This was a great side story - I liked the historical vignettes before each chapter

Corporal Chunk

Also, let's go talpin pov

TheBlack2007

She's being over-protective. Hardly surprising considering what happened to her firstborn daughter and consequently her first marriage. Much of her behavior can be attributed to a deeply buried, subconscious fear of losing her children. Likely not helped along by the fact they got kidnapped and almost murdered because some former Exterminators had a bone to pick with her. Another factor is her never having come to terms with the fact her biological daughter might as well be a different species from her - with the Genetic Modifications reversed and there being only little in studies of Venlil behavior as well as their society before First Contact with the Federation. While she has fully accepted Humans for what they are (she better does with a Human husband and adoptive son), she seems to struggle immensely with the fact her biological, Venlil daughter, broken free from the shackles put in place by Federation Gene-Modding and Generations of Societal Indoctrination, is not too different from Human children after all due to her having been brought up under the same, indoctrinated society. Same goes for Elia's older half-sister. TL,DR: She's fiercely protective of her family but struggles with the implications the more "predatory" traits of her unmodded daughter pose on her species as a whole.

Gumcel

Iirc Onso didn’t know what fireworks were so probably not.

oobanooba

I quite enjoyed this story, easily my favourite one you've done so far!

PhycoKrusk

Wouldn't be terribly cost effective. You'd be better off growing a bunch of turkey paste and then injection molding out around a bunch of fake bones that were, themselves, injection molded. Spray on some "skin" to help hold it together and crisp up in the oven, done. Is it going to taste as good as one of those Franklin Farms pasture-raised turkeys? Not a chance. Will it be a close enough analog that you won't care? Probably. Is it going to be drier than a martini because everyone in your family has been cooking turkey wrong since 1947? Uh-huh!

PhycoKrusk

Part of it is perspective: In Tarva's eyes, what she did leading up to and even during the Orion War was risky, but wasn't dangerous. What Elia is doing is just dangerous. Yes, even painting her nails; what if somebody gets the wrong idea?

Yannis Morris

@T___ I think the point is they’re not wearing Jesus’ murder. They’re wearing Jesus’ sacrifice

Tyler Ellis

I doubt anyone will shake hundreds of years of fed indoctrination in a single life time. Plus after the loss of her first I’d be surprised if she wasn’t over protective. She’s progressive in policy but a bear when it comes to family, to me it fits.

Almatty

I really liked this story. I also like the idea of using those introductory bits to fill in context for character showcases. Like if you do something with Sovlin's collected family. Having a "how did we get here" section would be cool and i liked it in this story. Also i want more old Noah shenanigans. The idea of old fart humans trolling the shit out of the venlil (or others) sounds like a very fun and wholesome story.

Almatty

It may just be the cliche of wild young adult turns into controlling mother. She is still personally very progressive but dosent want to see her daughter hurt the same ways she was in the past? Theres no evidence to back that take, but i feel like Tarva being a controlling mom is very fitting and i like the dynamic.

print Path

:Arxur_happy:

Wesley Rigg

It's just a contest of who gets second. Because we all know that Print Path gets first.

Space Paladin

There’s room to go anywhere now, whether it’s NOP1, NOP2, in between, or several of these phases! Still lots of avenues that can be told 😅

Space Paladin

I have been asked a bunch for Christmas content, so I’m glad it fit the bill!

T___

I loved Noah and the kids. This might - of course - be my own issues with my mother speaking, but what happened to Tarva? She was just like Elia, that's why we all fell in love with her. She let humans land. She talked to them and had them even hugging her. She defied the Federation for them. Why is she struggling so much with Elia's strong will? Tarva seems to fall to the same rut every time when talking to her daughter, and Noah has to stop her. Maybe it is as simple as she is talking TO Elia, instead of talking WITH her.

Space Paladin

<3

T___

Never understood why you'd want to wear the implement of the murder of someone dear to you.

Vladi Vladi

this mini-series flew by AND took its time, was ultimately a nice showcase of how Skalga is doing these days

EliasArt2Life

This chapter felt a lot like fan service; we’ve been asking for aliens to react to more holidays, and Space Paladin delivers. I’m all for it! I hope that we get to see some more of this family in the future, either in the main series, or a side series (please don’t turn it into a “be careful what you wish for” story). For all the flaws and clashes, this really is a pretty good family. Merry Christmas, Williams family!

Apogee

Awww sweet ending. This is my favorite interpretation of Santa https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PJiHaVuZuHg&pp=ygUNU2FudGEgbW9uc3Rlcg%3D%3D

Wingit98

People can just as easily have positive values without religion and in a future where we know there's hundreds of sapient species on other worlds, it kinda makes the whole religion thing seem even more far-fetched than it already is.

Wingit98

I mean, ham is the traditional dinner in the US, but I've had Christmases where we had turkey instead.

PiñaPiloto

I fuckin LOVE christmas in space, my favorite sci-fi trope. I wanna spread ALL the holly jolly joy to my favorite fluffy friends! Another great miniseries SP! We love you, and remember to drink plenty of water and get good sleep!

EliasArt2Life

No no no; we celebrate it with pretty lights, colors, and sparkles. Also, I want them to react to Groundhog Day. I just want to see their mind try to understand the concept of a superstitious belief that a prey animal seeing its shadow or not affecting the weather for the next month.

Tyler Ellis

Nothing ever said you couldn’t grow the entire animal, perhaps minus the brain and central nervous system.

Tyler Ellis

Super glad we see alien perspectives of our holidays and religions! Been waiting on that for a long long time! Now the only thing I need is to see how they react to fireworks, do they even have a concept for it? “Wait, you celebrate the new years arrival with fire and explosives?!”

CyberpunkGandalf

I’m sure that if you’re 3-D printing meat artificially, choosing a shape to match the selected protein types is not that difficult it’s not that difficult

BXSinclair

Speaking of Christianity, while many faiths have just the cross, Catholics have the crucifix, which is a depiction of Jesus still on the cross, right in the middle of his suffering Imagine how the Venlil would react to that, since one could no longer pretend it's actually something else

PhycoKrusk

Ok, but friends, this still leaves unanswered the most important question of all: What do you think Noah did to prepare that turkey? Because, let's face it, if he prepared it the way 95% of people do, that turkey is going to be drier than English wit.

NextMan

Oh, the one Sovlin made a whole thing over because he thought humans would cull the disabled? The irony is thick there, considering how the Federation treated the disabled…

PhycoKrusk

It is one of the things we do here. I think ham is slightly more popular, but turkey is pretty common too. Goose is pretty uncommon outside of select regions, though. December 25th is the most common day for Christmas celebrations in the United States. Some folks will have theirs the eve of the 24th instead, and still others have a both.

th3h4ck3r

I'm guessing the "turkey" is some sort of processed meat product, right? I don't think the Venlil would be very receptive of the prospect of either importing 'corpses' or raising live animals.

Wingit98

Still a lot of meat on that bone (thought of a predatory phrase for it)

Paperclip

I don't remember what chapter, but I believe he was one of the Cradle refugees that Sovlin thought the humans were gonna pounce on because of his disability. He was later given a device to help him communicate.

Fever Dream

Christmas Turkey is a thing here in Canada too.

Greg Gougeon

Ok now I have to make malva pudding it looks so good.

Wingit98

Oh good to know we'll still be bouncing back to the first story's timeline here and there. There's still so much story potential back there that I wouldn't want to miss out on. Also it's good to finally get some attention on Christmas in this universe

The Moist Crusader

I actually thought Americans didn't have turkey for Christmas because they just had it for Thanksgiving. The UK has it for Christmas, I know that much

Space Paladin

Thank you!

ArchitectOfTears

Was Noah American? Xmas turkey sounds weird to me, but I guess its what they do in USA. Also 25th is not universally the day that xmas celebration happens.

Hello There

A lovely side story paladin. I think one of the best you have done so far. Keep it up

Stueymon

I was gonna say Ramadan would be interesting considering the fasting element too it. Could Venlil trust humans who were literally starving themselves?

Adam Myers

@SP Though I am curious how they would handle Hanukkah. I think they would be able to sympathize, somewhat with religious purity, defiling a temple, and a miraculous restoration of sacredness to the temple. Though, I suspect that the humans would just not mention that the defiling sacrifices were defiling because of being animals, but of what kind. Ramadan and Lunar new year could be interesting as well.

Adam Myers

@Stueymon It can, but there isn’t much that can be done about it. Christmas is a cultural juggernaut, and the setting makes speaking about its origins necessary.

Yannis Morris

@PhycoKrusk Well it’s not like we’d be some omnipotent observer stationed above the guy. Nature of Predators is written from a first person point of view. We’d be in his head specifically. Everything he doesn’t tell anyone else would be available to us

PhycoKrusk

Either could be insightful in this case. It's clear that no formalized sign language was developed in the Federation beyond tail and ear signals, but even for those with both long ears and long, prehensile tails that only ever seemed to have a limited range of communication, and Gojid have neither of those features. How did he manage? Of course, it might also be kind of dull, since there would be no real conversation.

Space Paladin

Thank you! The door is always open to see them again 😅

Space Paladin

I think most Christians would find this to be in good humor, especially given how well certain aspects exemplify violence and bloodshed in human beliefs 😅 Though it’s hardly the only example!

Space Paladin

The deaf Gojid from the refugee camp!

Stueymon

Agreed but does it not feel detrimental to other religions to not be mentioned? That's what I've always assumed in most Sci Fi, that they don't choose a religion specifically to avoid a sense of favouritism?

DRIVE ME CLOSER, I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD

Personally I like the acknowledgement of Christianity. I'm not religious by any means, but its a major part of global culture. Kinda feels empty when sci-fi sweeps it to the side, makes the world seem less human.

Kevo

I can’t remember talpin now

DRIVE ME CLOSER, I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD

where was He introduced again?

Stueymon

Woof! On dangerous territory SP15! Not for me personally but some may take this religious stuff the wrong way

kenneth Moore

Hopefully you find a way to tie them into future side stories! I really liked this arc.

Paperclip

Holy moly we're going back to Talpin! I've ALWAYS wanted to get back to that dude. I felt like you couldn't just introduce a character like that and then dip, lol. I was so surprised that there was no mention or memory transcription of him 10 chapters later when I first read.

Yannis Morris

Okay so people tried to Parkour and the Exterminators were like “every physical activity is training for murder”

DemonVee

Oh I love this chapter, probably the most wholesome throughout the series. A good contrast to their bleak pasts. As a whole, I think this series had a bit of a slow start but it developed wonderfully as it went along, with really strong twol last chapter. One think I would love to see in a side story is the life of modern day Arxur and how they are adjusting to a demilitarising world. Maybe from the perspecting of a Yotul embassy if they finaly set up shop.

Space Paladin

Thank you! I glad you enjoyed it 😅

RaphaelFrog

I loved this side story! Seeing how Nova children interact and how Tarva and Noah's family fare after NoP1 was really nice and heartwarming! Keep doing an absolutely wonderful job and I'm looking forward to all the stories you create >:D

Andrew Lechner

I'm sad to see Noah not not pass on his faith to his children (assuming that he is Christian by the way Tarva talks about that aspect of Christmas). Religion usually forms the core of a person's values, and the values Christianity focuses on (perseverance, charity, and self-sacrifice) are very good ones indeed, especially for already semi-persecuted minorities like humans on Skalaga.

Mark Baculna

May the fourth be with you

Rowan Ruble

Ooo, Talpin is going to be very interesting.

un_pogaz

Sweet. Elia is definitely an ungovernable wonder. I'm very curious to see what will become of the Venlil in the future, and all the other ancient Fed races. Elia is great, but this situation is truly exceptional. But that for very others day. Gojid refugee, Talpin, disability management in the wonderful utopian Federation of Prey? Oh, I can't wait to see all that.

Vaill the protogen

I think I'm gonna cry, I'm really gonna miss Tarva and Noah

Swan

Feels wierd saying goodbye to the family, but all good things must come to an end I suppose :)

Bas Donders

Oh Talpin's story could be interesting. I hope it focuses more on the events during and after the evacuation than it does on his time under the Federation - the Federation are written as almost cartoonishly evil, while Alien-Human interactions are written as more insightful, more true to life.

Corporal Chunk

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