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The Nature of Predators 183

🕑 Added 2024-01-01 12:00:08 +0000 UTC

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just a person

Finally, the BIRTH chapter.

Charming Cobra

That's awesome!

Xskipy 10

Thanks! It’s supposed to be Slanek, but I made it before I realized his fur is dark grey and not silver grey.

Tazeell

The best profile picture

Space Paladin

Elia was born from a Venlil donor so Tarva could have an unmodded child

Space Paladin

I'm glad that you've enjoyed Tarva's sendoff! We'll get to see Elia and Ari again quite soon!

Snappa

Very nice. However I feel I’ve missed something. How is Elia related to Noah again? Other than being his daughter I mean. Biologically related how? Or am I misunderstanding what I read.

Charming Cobra

I never thought that at some point this story would make my eyes water, thank you Space Paladin for a beautiful read. And I just love those names you chose for their children, the best possible. I'm nervous for Thursday but at the same time I can't wait!

NextMan

It makes me wonder how Skalga would react to Saiyans’ appearance on their world…

Alekss Žukovskis

Ever left a holopad in the fridge? Would you want to?

Tazeell

<3

Vladi Vladi

the most impressive thing human newborn and babies can do is support their own weight while hanging from a ledge. Fairly certain they actually need to be like 1 or 2 weeks old before they can do that though, since human newborns are actually still immature births as leaving a baby inside the womb for more than 9 months makes it impossible for it to fit through the vagina anymore. For now all we know is that Venil newborns mature faster, but that's about it. Could be that unmodified Skalgians can start walking slightly faster than humans and are likely maybe a bit tougher (as in they could be less vulnerable to bad posture or sudden shaking). We don't get a good description of how Eli looks so I don't know if they are deformed like human newborns (in the sense that they they have soft bones and caved in skulls so the brain can properly grow). Was hoping for a more clinical description, a bit more of an explanation of those important differences, since (based on the only known sapient creature in nature, humans) sapient newborns and sapient organisms in general have a lot of drawbacks and weaknesses, would've been nice to know if the Venil had any

GeneralLDS

it’s almost over….

Swan

I don't know why, but i think it'd be funny if the kids had an uncle or something on earth who did animal control/hunted dear occationally; just like the image of the two kids looking at them skinning a dear with curiousity, and wonder in their eyes, while Tarva and Noah look on with horror in the background

Jakob Peirce

Forget Human generational conflict/differences, the next few decades on Skalga/Venlil Prime (I think the names are a perfect representation of this) are gonna be APOCALYPTIC. I'm talking new laws, govenment agencies (like traditional police for physical quarrels) EVERYTHING.

Adam Myers

Scene during their early years in the car, "Mom, Ari won't let go of my tail!" Tarva, exasperated, "Let go of her tail, you know better!" Ari, "But mom, she headbutted me in the shoulder." Elia, "Did not. Ari's lying!" Ari, "Am not." Elia, "Are to" Noah, "Enough! Ari, how is Elia headbutting you in the car?" Ari, "She is hitting me with her head!" Elia, "Am not". .....

Yannis Morris

@PhycoKrusk I *think* it’s the same schedule so far? So teaser this Wednesday, then the miniseries on the 6th

Adam Myers

That would be really nice for those not in the discord.

PhycoKrusk

I suspect that's going to start changing, or at least that Humanity will (re)introduce the wider galaxy to accessorizing. (Accessorizing was probably predatory behavior, let's face it)

PhycoKrusk

Odd question, but is there like a calendar for all this somewhere?

PhycoKrusk

@Elias I don't think it will cause him as many problems as you suspect for one simple reason: The highest concentration of Humans on Skalga is in the capitol, which is where all the adoptees will be, and where businesses are either unlikely to require covers for Humans, or are likely to capitalize on not requiring them as a point of advertising against those that do. Outside the cities where that policy is going to enjoy broad support will be where no one adopts Human children, so politically, it's not an issue. When it starts to become an issue, it's as simple as saying that the conditions and culture on Skalga have changed, and that it's time for the laws to start changing with them, and he starts to roll the policy back. Veln gets presented as a sensible leader who actually pays attention to what's happening with the People, the People get what they want, everyone lives happily ever after. That is until Raditz shows up! Just kidding, that would be ridiculous.

PhycoKrusk

Anesthetics during childbirth is predatory, duh, so obvious the Venlil doctors didn't think to have any, and any Human doctors present assumed they would be available because why wouldn't they be? Also, anesthetics during childbirth don't normally get rid of the pain; they just make it less intense.

EliasArt2Life

@Tyler Ellis When Veln became the Governor of Skalga, he stated that he was going to push legislation to allow businesses to require humans to wear eyewear. That was what I was primarily thinking of. He likely wasn’t expecting to have to deal with Venlil who hate that kind of legislation due to the psychological effects it will have on their adoptive children.

Some Lvm

So... Why no sheep epidural in 22nd century? And does this officially make Tarva the first Venlil in history to have a family name?

Lord Tvlor

Interesting. I've never heard that before.

pfreya

Ari is a fairly well known masculine name on its own in many cultures! Rio is a cool idea too though

jmal116

Ooh I really like Ari. Not only is it a nice reference in universe, but it also happens to be the name of my favorite character from another HFY story.

Tyler Ellis

Controversial plans? Have I missed something?

Lord Tvlor

Ari? Short for Arianna? I feel like Rosario -> Rio -> Ryan would be a better choice, even if it does Bury the lead a bit more.

Gumcel

Well over a year, almost 2.

Alekss Žukovskis

Ah, right! SP wont exaust his plot sacrifices for something that doesnt sting

Space Paladin

Happy New Year!

Space Paladin

Fear not; Tarva is going to be in the miniseries about her kids!

Space Paladin

Noah and Tarva’s children have a series launch on January 6th! NOP2 teasers are up first, so that the hype train can leave the station 😅

autotheftgrand

"got your nose" taken to it's logical extreme.

autotheftgrand

Boys are better at throwing. girls have a tail. Girls don't wear clothes...

EliasArt2Life

This is a sweet chapter. I’m interested in Elia and Ari’s lives going forward. There’s a lot of potential for hijinks. What’s a Venlil’s sense of smell like? What smells are they attracted to? In humans, without smell, most tastes are muted. Will Elia have heightened taste due to her sense of smell? How are they going to explain to their kids why Tarva has strange legs and no nose? They’re likely going to ask before they’re emotionally mature enough to handle it. Also, how is Veln going to deal with the growing number of adopted humans on Skalga? It’s going to throw a wrench into his more controversial plans, since it can be perceived as an attack on the children.

pogman

Funnily enough, hasn't it been a year in real life aswell?

PhycoKrusk

Poor Sivkits; quadrupedal stance, bipedal drawbacks.

Mutedmirth

Ahh second to last! Such a sweet chapter!

PhycoKrusk

Neuroplasticity is also very high for those first few years too. As long as they make sure to emphasize that her brother's head isn't as hard as hers, I think it'll be fine.

Alekss Žukovskis

peach, that will be the compromise

PhycoKrusk

Doubt it. If one or both of them kids is a focus character, you don't really want that sort of misadventure happening off-screen, otherwise it's just this thing that happens and it really doesn't have any impact.

autotheftgrand

Pink? Not orange?

PhycoKrusk

Not just against Humanity, but the rest of the Coalition too, when you really get down to it. Plus any of the others who decide that, all things considered, maybe trying to get closer to Humanity is the way to go. It's going to be a wild 20 years.

Adam Myers

What is the schedule like now? I am curious what the next side series will be.

Adam Myers

Yep. The galaxy is about to understand why the Farsul feared the Venlil.

Apogee

Awwwww. Loved the birthing scene this was an awsome wrap up on Tarvas POV onward to a brighter future! But still a lot of work to be done as there always is. I wonder if they will have moved to Earth next time we see them.

DemonVee

I think it's inevitable. With the Drezjin and Yulpa still being fundamentally against Humanity they are bound to cause trouble in the Future. And the Effects from the Farsul and Kolshians will probably be felt for centuries so there is bound to be quite a few interactions with them even if they don't play a major role. I would love to see a Farsul/Kolshian character that grows up in the post war environment and has to go through similar trails as the characters in this half of the story have. Being hated for things they never did and learning to accept that they don't deserve that hatred.

Alekss Žukovskis

My anxiety trigger is tingling. Is Noah going to die in-between NOP1 and NOP2 ??

Tyler Ellis

Uh-oh, I’ve got the feeling that this next generation of Venlil are going to be… A bit of a problem let’s just say.

OhioOkie

Only six months older? With Venlil maturing faster that does not appear to be enough. Also the head butting is probsbly instinctive. Human kids heads are still growing and skull is soft for a few years. No one knows how agressive the new born will be. I am sure with the description of heading butting from esrlier it is not a learned trsit.

PassengerNo

Any of those Child Logic(s) would be adorable! I also think they should have pet growing up. For pet-care is important for learning responsibility and empathy.

Cera Treascair

I think I'm in full agreement. The kids will go to WAR for each other in a few years. "I'm the only one allowed to pick on them, fuck off!" along with some physical beatdowns. I can't wait to see what they get up to in the sequel~

Yannis Morris

After they get over the child-like (yet reasonable) assumption that their parents made both of them: I could see the kids assume that, based on the genetic barrier between their parents, the both of them are adopted. I could see a few no context assumptions, actually. Depending on how many Venlil and Humans they see: The kids might think they’re members of the same species with severe sexual dimorphism. (Though obviously not in those words. More like “Boy eyes face forward and girl eyes face the sides” and stuff like that.). Elia might also spend some time thinking her nose is gonna fall off when she grows up. I could see Ari either teasing her about this or we could go the adorable route and have him promise to smell things for his sister when she can’t anymore. There ought to be at least one case of Child Logic in that NoP2 miniseries.

Byron Ritchie

Beautiful and cute send off to Mrs Williams and the astronaut, I wonder if their kids will have major role to play in the sequel?

Cartoon dinosaur

cool. IS there any chance we will get a fallow up on the Vulpa or drezdin In NoP2 or in a future miniseries? Same for the Kol and sul?

PassengerNo

Dear Theodosia from Hamilton: Dear Theodosia, what to say to you? I'm dedicating every day to you You will come of age with our young nation We'll bleed and fight for you We'll make it right for you If we lay a strong enough foundation We'll pass it on to you, we'll give the world to you And you'll blow us all away Someday, someday

Roscuro

How saccharine. Definitely looking forward to their mini-series. Also realized this marks well over a year in-universe since they met.

TheBlack2007

Unless you really lose the lottery of evolution like the Kiwi mom who has to push out an egg almost as large as herself. Probably not a funfact to bring up at the birth station though.

Yannis Morris

Finally! After all these years! At least one year has passed in universe!

Xskipy 10

My heart is melting I love this family so much

Yannis Morris

I didn’t even notice.

Paperclip

And so the POV of the first introduced character ends! It's kind of bittersweet, really. I don't want to leave Tarva, but seeing such a happy ending makes me tear up. I really, REALLY hope we get more of the Ambassador, maybe even just tidbits of "screentime". It doesn't really feel like NOP without her.

Wingit98

Well damn, I share a birthday with this here Venlil

Constance Brown

Tarva seems so unaware of why Noah is panicky. I somehow want her to learn how deadly and fraught having a child can be for a human. Many Venlil are the same, but advancements in science mean in effect it's not a problem, so that's why she's confused? Either way a great chapter. Glad they got a happy ending.

Lovely chapter. PD: Happy new year to everyone!!

Youre a swedekisser arent you

This was certainly quite the time skip! I definitely didn't expect to see Elia (very beautiful choice of a name by the way) being born! Funny enough this made me wonder how many other species have pain during childbirth. The bipedals all likely suffer from similar issues to our own (big heads tiny hips) but the quadrupeds probably have an easier time. Probably. The egg layers probably don't suffer as much either given how small eggs are compared to the adults. Man, we really got the short end of the stick, huh?

Alekss Žukovskis

"Tarva Williams" immediately gave me cuteness overload

Random Guy

Third

Dookus Maximus

Happy New Year frens

Byne

Just reading "Tarva Williams" was so unexpected

Tyler Ellis

Howdy

Jackson Hazeltine

Yo! Happy New Year!


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