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The Nature of Predators - Archives Lore (One-Shot #8)

🕑 Added 2023-06-28 11:00:07 +0000 UTC

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Michelle Brooks

What bonus story Is Nuela from

Rob Goldman

Agreed! Virnt is probably the inspiration for baby Yoda.

Jevon Gray

Everytime I see something to do with Virnt, I love the little guy that much more. He needs to be protected at all costs, and if anything ever comes to happen to him, I'll never forgive you, OP.

Space Paladin

Just try to learn, grow, try new things, and craft fun character moments as time goes on! Thank you for the kind words 🤣

Space Paladin

I plan to make it free some time after public release of 129, per the patrons’ wishes in my discussions with people 🙏

Space Paladin

Thank you! Maybe in the future I’ll play with these type of stories more 😅

Cosmic Bananas

I love getting bits like these when its a story I enjoy such as this one

Cosmic Bananas

I must say your dialogue and general over arcing story is fabulous. Only complaints I could possibly think of are heavily outweighed by the gripping story that makes you think, btw the only complaints i have is that it seems a little fast going and that you aren't great with technical bits like explaining military structure You have definitely grown and the dialogue (Which you are a expert with) has grown with it glad you have a logical excuse for incompetent aliens unlike other stories on hfy and humans are space orcs. plus humanity isn't wildly genocidal

urbanlegend

Very glad to see this lore drop, loved every minute of it. On a different note, I feel as though your writing is substantially improved in this chapter- it flows much more naturally.

Jonathan Cardoso Mota

He mentioned in the discord what the letters meant (aggression index) back when chapter 128 was released on the patreon so now that 128 is out in the wild it should be free information.

jetpacksuperman

Nah we shouldn’t hold the general civilian populace responsible for the evil actions of their government. They didn’t even know what was going on and were brainwashed

Flinty Flakes

I thought the lettering system was to mark how hard it was to integrate them. A's like the Gojids were easy, as they only had to show up, tell them what their views were, and fake an archeological find. G's like the Venlil and humans (we're 243-G I believe) are either a monstrous pain to integrate or they can't be integrated. Assuming you've caught up to the latest chapter on Patreon, the Venlil are G because they required a complicated scheme involving forced deformities, constant heavy doses of propaganda, and kidnapping an entire generation of children to raise offworld to assimilate. We're G's because the Farsul couldn't work out a cure that didn't kill us, and you can't have uncured omnivores running around. You can see that in these rankings. Duerten got a low ranking (D) because it took a long time (they predicted a hundred years) to totally turn around their argumentative, undesirable culture and get them to the point where they didn't need the Farsul actively moderating everything. Zurulians got a high ranking (A) because all that was needed was for them to be funneled in a direction they were already going.

Mike Barth

At this point when finally do take down the kohlshians and Farsul their home worlds should be put in the forever timeout corner by shredding tons of debris in their orbits. That way everyone else can say we were merciful but we make sure they never leave their world again to commit crimes against the galaxy.

unknown_stranger

I wonder how the classification systems works - do the letters represent how heavily modified the species currently is? Basically acting as their version-... well, not number, but letter, I guess. That would fit the D-F-G pattern laid out by the Duerten-Krakotl-Venlil. I wonder then who the 243-G were, to warrant a similar treatment or classification as the Venlil. Poor saps. Or is that the Arxur? The Thafki make me think of the Gojid - sure, the Cradle is no more, but there should still be living Gojids around as prisoners of the Arxur, no? If we can save the Venlil and the Thafki, why not the Gojid too? Maybe, just maybe...

Unknown

Can I post the name of the Paltan homeworld in the subreddit? Also what's your policy on saying what the letters (A-G) mean? When will it be appropriate to let non-patrons know what that means? (I'm guessing Saturday at a minimum).

Hello There

We know a thing or two because we did a thing or two basically

John Benjamin Cate

It’s noted that several species are extinct! Imagine if those were the most inconvenient ones to the story…. In fact, how do we even know if the Arxur were actually the reason all of them went extinct?

Gabe

I, for one, welcome our "new" Skalgan allies, let's show them old school warrior music. The kind with drums that beat like a heart and thrum with string instruments. Viking, Mongolian, hell throw in some Native American.

Jonathan Cardoso Mota

1: No we did not! The closest thing was the failed MAD deal with Kalsim and that was a desperate move, nobody expected the man to be so insane. Sillis and Fahl are occupied but nothing even remotely like extinction level events and even the moon on Talsk isn't a big enough object to do more than taken down a city.

Cartoon dinosaur

Did the federation ever discover a fully aquatic species and just didn't try to uplift them? and if not what would they even do to them, its not like a fully aquatic species can be "cured" of that. they have no way of supporting themselves on land.

Piittis

Good to see annoying aliens like Coji have all their pride ripped to shreds as they find out their whole society was manufactured by the Federation.

Some Lvm

The humans’ three-word reply was, “I don’t know.” Oh, we know! We know all to well, we just don't have the heart to tell you...

Cartoon dinosaur

depends. Most mammals are colorblind which is why most big mammals are grey/brown and why tigers are well camouflaged from mammal prey despite being bright orange. While birds are tetrachromats, so they can see color even better then us which tracks with the brightly colored Krakotl. So as far as I'm concerned the color of the species isn't of any suspicion.

Lord Tvlor

It's funny how they immediately got back to bickering with each other as soon as they found out that's how they used to behave.

Flinty Flakes

1: Didn't we just do/attempt an extinction event against all the species that were part of the extermination fleet? Why are the Thafki asking why anyone would do this? Do they see a big difference between extinction events committed against those whom you are at war with, and those who are not? It seems that the Federation doesn't have much of a concept of fighting wars that don't aim to end in the extinction of one of the parties, so maybe that's why. It still seems strange to ask that. 2: Why is Birla so distraught over the Tilfish eating their eggs? Didn't they throw out all the ones they didn't eat? I know it's cannibalism of one's own children, but 'a thousand times worse than anything humanity ever did' seems extreme. 3: Is this supposed to be something in-universe, or is this just a birds-eye summary entirely for the audience? I do love this, and it's fine if it's nothing in-universe. I'm just wondering, if it's supposed to be something in-universe like the memory transcriptions, what it is. Overall, though, I loved this oneshot, and it's my opinion that the more lore we have, the better. I would absolutely be in favor of this going public eventaully.

pfreya

Completely with you on this! Anarchy has been the victim of centuries of moral panic PR attacks, but there’s something to be said for the free and willing engagement in consensus-based decision making. I’m not at all surprised that the Farsul feared the practice — self-organizing communities that know how to cooperate can be powerful!

pfreya

This summit is really going to let humanity shine I think! All these species who are used to being told what to do, whether overtly or covertly, are bound to stumble some when presented with the chance to explore their own wants and needs. All those voices could easily turn chaotic, but cooperation and empathy have been two of humanity’s strongest defining traits since before we were even Homo Sapiens — hopefully all the players learn to think independently while working together!

Joshua James Feenstra

So I know the Zurilians like how everything turned out, but I wonder if the Venlil will be angered enough to change back to how they were. I meant it seems to just be a positive to change back but...

Jackson Urwin

I love this, I would love to see an encyclopedia of every species someday and what happened to them. But the part I like most about this is how it leaves you with different things to think on. I’m gonna be wondering about the Duerten for weeks now.

Unknown

I wonder if their wanderlust is Fed programming too, though that doesn't seem like a trait the Feds would want.

Mr. Walker

I don't know if "Empire" is the right term. Confederating, perhaps?

Mr. Walker

"Duerten; From what I gather, Coji is legitimately trying to be a dispassionate face for her species, but is inadvertently letting her feeling take control. The Federation’s treatment of them is terrible; a shadow of what they did to the Venlil. They turned the Deurten into the exact opposite of what they were; from an individualistic society to a collective." I said this elsewhere below, but I think "individualism" is too strong a term. The Duerten did value individual opinions, sure, but they still got together and discussed what to do instead of any individual acting of their own initiative. I think that their old system represented a balance between individualism and collectivism.

Mr. Walker

The Duerten getting together and discussing before acting doesn't sound like toxic individualism to me. It sounds like a healthy balance between individualism and collectivism. They value the individual enough to make room for everyone to contribute to the decision making process, but they also are aware enough of how an individuals actions can affect the group so that they discuss before acting. Toxic individualism would be one individual striding up to the newcomers on their own initiative without regard for the consequences. Honestly, this kind of concensus-building and horizontal democracy is close to what I understand anarchism to actually be. The Farsul did not mislabel it, but they definitely judged it too harshly.

Andrew Lechner

I hope you make this one free one day, perhaps after Zhao's summit starts and all species listed here attend.

DrewTheHobo

Look at Zhao moving up in our approval ratings! Loving this empire building for the humans and their Allie’s. Hopefully the Krakotl are amenable (and the Duerten chill the fuck out)!

Byron Ritchie

Jeez both jerlium and the kohlshians are just on another level of dickery

John Krause

Wow i loved this, if you feel comfortable id love more oneshots and series like this covering lore and diplomacy even retroactively on these broader scales, you did a great job paladin

EliasArt2Life

Waitwaitwaitwait! I just remembered something from the Wiki; the Sivkits are quadrupedal. It’s stated that the Federation supposes that they were bipedal at one point, but devolved that trait after they were technologically advanced enough. I hate to say it, but based on the current information of the Kolshian-Farsul MO, it’s very possible the Sivkits were adept at warfare, or something like that, and the Kolshians made them quadrupedal again so that they couldn’t use their weapons/tools, while also making them much more timid and fearful than other species.

Seamus

Slapping a moon out of orbit’ll do that 😆

Space Paladin

Thank you!

Space Paladin

It’ll probably go public eventually after 129 and before the summit, since patrons mentioned wanting to be able to use the lore in fanfics 🙏

Space Paladin

It’s my pleasure! Glad you liked it 😅

Davis R

I enjoyed this chapter and I believe one’s like this are completely necessary. Having character pov’s and feeling is good, but sometimes for stories of this scale it is good to “zoom out” and get an impersonal but factual view on the big picture. It helps out context to the rest of the story and events our characters are going through. Loved it, excited for the summit!

Michael

INB4 the Kolshians and Farsul realize humanity flipped every species to their side in a new Federation and now they're the two species on the dot for being royally fucked up by a fleet of very angry sapients. EDIT: maybe just the Kolshians now because the Farsul don't seem to be having a good time with their homeworld at the moment.

EliasArt2Life

My thoughts on each section: The Suleans and Iftali; Nice to hear from them! I find it amusing that human religions have caught on there. I really feel that the Kolshians-Farsul treatment of the Iftali was terrible. Luckily, their kind temperament made the transition less inhumane. Still unacceptable, but at least there wasn’t much more than the basic stuff… Duerten; From what I gather, Coji is legitimately trying to be a dispassionate face for her species, but is inadvertently letting her feeling take control. The Federation’s treatment of them is terrible; a shadow of what they did to the Venlil. They turned the Deurten into the exact opposite of what they were; from an individualistic society to a collective. The Thafki; The Thafki may be one of the biggest victims of the Kolshians and Farsul. They were set up for extinction not because they were once omnivorous, not because they were violent, not because they were particularly resistant to indoctrination, but because their nature drew them to the water, and that posed a non-zero risk of them upsetting the balance the Kolshians and Farsul had made. That information should be sent to the rest of the galaxy. The Zurulians; I shudder to think of just how much of their culture was wiped out in order to give them a singular focus on medicine. Not just the Zurulians; this treatment is apparently common. Tilfish; Ooff! That’s a tough pill to swallow. Common enough in nature, but from their perspective it’s a pile driver. Ironically, since they’re already discarding the unwanted eggs, they ended up in a place that’s not too far off from what they used to do. And the Kolshian-Farsul were okay with that. Glad the Tilfish are officially allying with us. I, personally w the Spider Ants and Virnt! Krakotl; Yay! We’re bringing the Krakotl into the fold! Maybe we can get that scene of the Krakotl and Duerten delegates arguing! Also, glad to finally get some information as to the state of the Krakotl government. I’m sorry that it’s in upheaval, but glad that something exists. Nuela will come as a shock to non-Patreon members, so I think she may be presented as more of a wild card than she is here, so that her intentions can be a pleasant surprise. Great chapter as always, but here especially, Space Paladin!

Nicole

That would be a lot of fun

Doctor Worm

This makes me *really* want a one-shot of Skalga before the Feds found it. See the Venlil society organically before the Feds arrived. I don't know how it could serve the story, but it would be really fun anyway!

se05239

Such a smart move. Just send the Farsul files, in raw unedited format, to everyone.

Dcluigimario

I guess if there was anything good to come from the Krakotl attacking Earth would be that most of their kind who supported the attack died on that failed mission. I can imagine it made it much easier for them to start a rebellion.

Peter

This is some gooooood lore. I could read so much more.

ToddlerLeft

I love the characters and the character developer ofc but I'm so happy you did some political intrigue and lore!! This universe has so much good lore and complicated politics and I'd love to see more of it!!

Unknown

No mention of Dossur or Arxur, but I'm guessing we're going to see those in the next Isif chapter. Looking forward to what happens next. I hope that someday this chapter can be made public.

Danny Luca

Has anyone noticed a lot of species lack color in their fur? That has to be a Fed gene-edit. Plenty of animals develop bright colors to scare predators off or to attract mates. Doesn’t make sense most sapients would be mostly gray

Nicole

This was great, I love a good lore dump!!

Nicole

They did WHAT TO THE OTTERS!! I didn't think I could be more pissed at the federation but here we are.

Danny Luca

I think she changed her mind after the Krakotl past came out but that there was no Birla for the Krakotl. Personally, I’m confused about the part that she was the one general that refused to bomb their homeworlds. So does that mean the Krakotl literally exterminated most of their own worlds?

Michael Klim

"She puffed her feathers in delight when the extermination fleet set sail." Something is wrong, I thought she opposed the extermination fleet. Loved it! This format was wonderful. I love the main story but there is so much happening in the NoP universe that I feel like strictly first person stories leave something out. I want to hear how the other races are doing and this is perfect.

richfiles

The turning a blind eye on the Thafki plight, willing their genocide, and the Deurten will 180 manipulation REALLY struck home with me... The Feds are the pure embodiment of evil I can understand what drives an Arxur to commit their evils. The Arxur rebel faction is proof that if offered a better way, they are willing to take it! No mental gymnastics can wrap my brain around this Federation evil... Just... Incredible... Also interesting to see a non memory transcription entry

Pyroraptor

The Thafki association finally sent a response message, asking the United Nations how anyone could allow an extinction event to happen. The humans’ three-word reply was, “I don’t know.” Man fuck everyone involved in this conspiracy. Thanks for the chapter!

Quin Reiss

They're people, not fucking animals

Quin Reiss

Also side bit, I hate the (presumably Federation in origin) wording of "12,000 *in the wild*"

Danny Luca

I think the ruling caste would make lovely sannakji (the live octopus with soy sauce).

Danny Luca

It made stop hating the space ducks (I’ve decided they no longer need to be called geese). It’s fucked to take away their love of democracy/individualism just cause it was inconvenient

Quin Reiss

This is awesome, thank you

Danny Luca

SPACE OTTERS! PLEASE MORE SPACE OTTERS! I swear, every week there is a new reason to hate the damn Feds. How could they hurt these poor space otters? I hope the UN can help them reclaim their homeworld from the Arxur and help them rebuild their civilization. Maybe even have some on Earth. Plus they would make perfect Archivists Also, one day would be great to hear about species that went extinct due to Fed wiping them out or allowing them to go extinct (cause of inaction like with the otters or maybe something like asteroid)

Ana Fiser

Now just gotta release the Nikonus - Giznel Convo and federation is officialy Joever

Nuclear Cowboy

God, SP, you just don’t miss dude.

T___

The Thafki information was very sad. I will be thinking about them a lot for sure. Virnt is a star as always, and I've always liked Birla. Duerten part was fun. Still, my favorite part was the Krakotl because of Nuela's genuine repentance.

Rick

Space otters are offical!

TruChrono

Completely fantastic, I still adore following your content! I cling to every word!

EF_stream

Wait what survey, I haven't seen any survey

Found&Lost

drat, it stopped accepting responses before I finished

HiMyNameIsFelipe

Hell yeah, Krakatol allies! Also, the Duerten were the exact oposite of what they are now? Damn Also, was kinda hoping we learned mor on the Mazics. Maybe they had no issues an just joined, but seeing how big they are, I expected them to have a story

BigSneppy

Just when I thought I couldn’t hate the Kolshians more I find that they were complicit in the genocide of space otters, looks like calamari is on the menu

DemonVee

Haha love it, I'm a sucker for lore so this was nice to read. Also interesting seeing you write in a 3rd person perspective :D I really hope we get some more in the future for any species that won't have discoveries tied to the main story. The Duerten one stung, twisting them into the opposite of what they use to be. A small part of me is sad we didn't get so see anything on the Sivkits (definitely not for selfish fanfic related reasons.) :D ----------------------------- This does make me wonder again though: The Farsul/Kolshians have shown themselves to be very vindictive. Twisting people to be the opposite of what they are, wiping out cultures for the crime of swimming or even shoving "perfect species" into specific molds. What the hell did the Sivkits do to piss off the duo so much? Most likely made into wondering nomads who don't even have record if their capital world is their homeworld or not. (The fact that they messed with the Venlil and Thafki in the same vain for a "transgression" makes me think they had to do something, rebel maybe? Or were a space faring species already?) Or was it a case similar to the Gojids and they were just remolded for a new role, specialized explores for new colonies? Forced to forget about their world to not get attached to one place culturally? Or again, it could be a case that there was something about their world that was inherently against Fed propaganda, though I wouldn't know what that could be. History maybe? Something buried deep beneath? (If their capital isn't their homeworld at least and they just weren't forced to be confused about that.) --------------- Or it could have been as simple as them loving their home enough to not want to spread out. Attempting to refuse the Kolshian's offer to join the Federation.

EF_stream

The gears of change are starting to turn, time holds still in preparation for the brave new future, fate throws their gloves off, and lady luck tosses her coins It's all going down folks! This bonus chapter throws so much coal into the embers of the hype train, it should go public

Sobek

Ah yes L O R E

Roscuro

I like the duertans immediate disent into chaos. Also, the survey says it's no longer accepting applications?

Luke Reinhardt

This story just hits different 🤤 ❤️

Michael Morse

Wooo!! New species mentioned I hope we get to see more of them. Sad we didn’t hear about the mazic. Definitely one of my favorite chapters. Thank you SP.

Michael Morse

The governing caste is responsible for all this. The rest of the kolshians were presumably the first to be oppressed.

ethan

Loved this! Kinda hope a few more are sprinkled in going forward from here. Also, Space Paladin. Might I ask what the purpose of that survey was for?

John Benjamin Cate

Makes you wonder about the species that HAVE gone extinct, doesn’t it?

pogman

General Nuela is like Charles de Gaulle and her government is like Free France during WW2 innit

John Benjamin Cate

Good lord, they let a species be killed just because they like water. Holy shit. Makes me wonder about the others that went fully extinct. Now I am a little curious about what the Harchen info is like. They might have had even better camouflage. Tilfish eating eggs! Thought so! Ha! Krakotl civil war! I was right! I am SO looking forward to that being explored in fics! This is so much lore that I think it would be a shame to leave it in the patreon. I really hope you make this public!

Dookus Maximus

Yeah, I was just thinking I could go for some fried chicken.

Jack Skorupski

The feds are so bloody condescending to everyone they meet. Even if a species is already acceptable by their standards they still mold them to be a single homogeneous racial profile. Its disgusting. Theyre so bigoted and authoritarian that they ONLY see species instead of individuals. They go around stealing peoples agency because they are CONVINCED they know best about everything. Hell, they hung the Thafki out to dry because no matter what they did the otters still liked swimming. And not because swimming is bad but because the Farsul dont like folks snooping. Meanwhile, their day to day society is hellish for basically everyone but the bigwigs, and the “stability” and “purity” they try to enforce is BTFO after less than a year of humanities involvement. These bastards dont deserve mercy even though the UN will probably give it to them. Slanek was right.

Cakeb

Epic time

towerator

*reads the Thafki entry* Heads will roll...

Ana Fiser

Birbs are gonna become based soon. Now this is epic

Samuel Sukovsky

Damn, we're in the endgame now

The furry in your walls in your walls

I say give the rebel birds a chance!

Violaceum

Very glad to see Krakotl on our side, finally! Also, I'm surprised the Federation somehow keeps getting worse. It didn't seem possible...

Kaiser Marcqui

Yes! I love anthologies. Great bonus chapter! And I'm so glad the Krakotl are joining our side!

Loke

Ooooooo interesting…

Yonael Blackwood

Us. SP said so on discord.

Cooldude101011

Who the fuck is 243-G?

Anthony Mears

3

Jeffrey McLaughlin

2nd

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