BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - AMERICAN NIGHTMARE
🕑 Added 2025-03-30 01:02:54 +0000 UTCThis week, James and Jimmie discuss the Netflix Documentary 'American Nightmare' and the accompanying book, 'Victim F'.
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Spoopcast
I love when they talk cars like they know what they're talking about. So many cars and engines are easy to distinguish. Crazy episode tho. The doc was alright but this was better. Good job!
D.
Another amazing episode guys! Thank you-you make work, driving in traffic, and working out so much better. Thank you for all the hard work. 💞
Michelle Miller
"He likes long blonde hair and she likes..." the long dong of the law!🤭
Joe Weniger
Great episode! Your delivery is amazing.
Alec Yorballs
We had a GOOD day!
magnoliasouth
Excellent episode! I watched it not long after it was posted to Netflix. I was absolutely SHOCKED by the treatment of the police! Listening to Denise describe what happened to her was unbelievable! Speaking of that word, have you guys thought about a Bonus on the Marie Adler case? I had that same experience in Houston. I never pressed charges because the police told me how I was going to ruin their lives because they thought I was lying. I was only 17 and was drunk. Typical for teens, but they ignored my (admittedly slurred) explanation on what happened. It was the 80's and police were different back then. Then The Accused came out and things changed. Either way, I have avoided drinking heavily ever since, so at least something good came out of it... I guess.
Noal
cant wait see yall in Grand Rapids
Jesse Giamartino
MUSTARRRRRDDDDD
Devin Rowland
This is the most Vallejo PD story I've ever heard.
Kris the Patrol Cop
Lmao, half of our patrol division at my PD listen. It’s only like 10 people but still…
Jessica Kamps
My husband’s ex-wife went to college with them and was in the same sorority. We have pictures of all of them together. So crazy!
Martha Casantosan
Thanks for talking about this. I tried to watch the documentary when it came out and I got bored so never finished it 🤣
Tonia Willis
Nope, sorry guys, you must wash your hands after using the bathroom! I don’t care if you’re in the middle of a murder!
Erika Fultz
I used to coach my son's soccer team AND referee so I was at the fields ALL day during the season. Then I tore my ACL AND haven't refereed in 18 months.
Madison Berretta
I asked my husband (married 7 yrs, together 12 yrs) if he would call the cops or go have diarrhea first. He looked at me like I was crazy & replied "I'd call the cops WHILE having diarrhea." 🤣 true love
Michelle Miller
I had goosebumps through the entire thing … watching the doc now. Mr Rogers broke my heart. I would have lost my shit with the cops on so many levels but that would have been the last straw. I would have ended up on jail for throttling them.
Moth Mane
I immediately thought of Luis CK and cackled when you said that shit about the Twain award Jimmi 😂
Andrew Gilliam
Lost for words, I’ve listened to hundreds and hundreds of you guys an his is by far the most crazy story I’ve every heard !
Elizabeth Fernandez
I can definitely understand why they thought it sounded fake but also Vallejo PD is a joke so I’m not surprised they fucked it up
Carey Turner
I’m grateful that Aaron and she were able to get that money for a lot of reasons, but also, so Aaron can replace all of his woodworking equipment. The dust settled, but Mr. Rogers is gone forever and if that was me, I would lose my fucking mind.!
Bobby Troxell
Mustard is terrible at his job
Charlie
Vallejo is pronounced "Va-eh-hoe." I once worked with a redneck that made everyone pronounce his last name "Valley-joe."
Kath Finn
Loved how this touched on so many classic STM tropes- and turned them on their heads. Really enjoyed it.
Jean Hope
Great episode
Taylor Washington
They are for the next Patreon drop!!
Misty McLaughlin
I did the same thing. I had to listen to them give their thoughts after I watched it. Was not disappointed.
Misty McLaughlin
This documentary infuriated me. The guys described it perfectly
KB
Soccer mom from Iowa.... often, I regret putting my child in the outdoor sporting. But, she's pretty good at it so it makes it worth it!
Randi Otis
That Colonel Mustard joke was golden.
Sara Schacht
Insane story! Would love to hear your guys' commentary on the fox hollow murders doc on Hulu!
Kyle Krasowski
I would like to hear a top 10 list of James favorite documentaries. He has mentioned so many over the years and I'm just curious what the best ones are.
Angelo Santora
I was surprised to hear James say there was more than one person in the house. I though in the Netflix doc we ultimately learned he acted alone. This wasn't part of some larger scheme with a group of people.
Eldergoth
I don’t know, guys, I really think this guy worked on his own. The whole focus, the main objective, was for him to be able to rape her, and scare her. Then he’s a “gentleman rapist“, that is no surprise, as that is also no gentleman. He just is cagey as fuck. I don’t see him working with other people. I think he could’ve pulled it off on his own. Which would explain how he fucked up and technically kidnapped the wrong woman. I don’t think that there’s a whole agency, that seems to be what people tell victims to make them more compliant.
Jhayden Faeran
What a bizarre story! You two tell everything in such an entertaining way
Natalia
Do the karen reed documentary!!!
Amy Brassard
It doesn’t matter they are both great
Amy Brassard
I watched this on netflix and what a crazy story. I’m glad someone believed them
Kathrynn
Christ you two weren't kidding about this one being twisted. Legitimately scary.
Kelley Marie
I was just at an evidence training here in California. Missy came and spoke to us about this case. She’s a force to reckon with! She believes that others are involved too because too many victims swear there was more than one person. If she had not been so persistent Aaron and Denise could be in jail.
Don
Hi. Should I listen to this episode or watch the documentary first? Thanks.
Christine Leister
Well done guys! This was one of my faves from a storytelling point of view ☺️
Matt Eberhardt
I saw this… absolutely fucking crazy…. Why are crimsons sooo sloppy with their evidence…
Zachary Leatherwood
👑👍🏾👑👍🏾👑👍🏾👑👍🏾👑👍🏾
Zachary Leatherwood
What’s up Turkeys? Chilling with a joint and my Dudes!!! 💚💚💚
Kristi B Green
Goddam Keystone cops BS
Charles Young
I grew up in Vallejo. Your views of the PD are not wrong.
Jenna Augustine Atwater
Coerced "sex" while held against your will is first degree rape. I love you guys so much!! Filthy mouthed comedians, always looking out for women's rights. You are national treasures ❤️
Mitzi Callahan
What a nightmare for that poor couple. It was difficult to watch.
Jenna Augustine Atwater
WE HAD A GOOD DAY!!!!!!!!
Terri Hliwski
Kudos to you, James, for getting through the audiobook; I only made it a few minutes into the second chapter because I couldn't get through the unnecessary flowery and overly dramatic language. The actual story is dramatic enough; "every millisecond my soul yearned for her" or some such nonsense - completely ridiculous.
Jenna Augustine Atwater
I think one of my ancestors was from Whorington! She got married to a Duke and became the Lady of Sluttingshire!
Martha Kapeghian
Great telling! Just watched documentary & it's horrifying on so many levels
Marc Trudeau
MUSTAAAAAAAARRRRD!
Christopher Starks
I watched the documentary a while back and I was in shock the entire time. Listening to this I kept thinking about that Sherlock Holmes quote; “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” Crazy how accurate that is with so many of the Small Town murder episodes.
Cher Strong (#localweedia)
Oh no! Aaron? He ends up a cool guy. At the end! Did you listen? I haven’t finished yet.. but the actual story ends with him a cool guy. :-)
Cher Strong (#localweedia)
52:30 Describing Denise walking up to the house. I said -she fucking rocks! She’s took that like a warrior I could only hope to be. I think she was at the Florida Crime Con that I was at.. or the Nashville one. Missed seeing her. Wicked!
Chas Williams
This guy is so fuckin annoying 🤣 20mins in and fuck him.
Joshua Goodall
It was all the one guy he admitted it can not remember if it was in the book or another podcast
Bailey Hicks
This was horrifying from start to finish.
Katie Oliver
Listened to part of this episode, paused and binged all three episodes on my laptop, then finished the episode. Loved this one!
dhigueracooke
Saw the documentary on netflix a while ago and its shocking
Em
Never heard of this before. Thank you!!☺️
Ryan Gunion
I can’t believe I had never heard of this before?! My wife and I will be watching it tonight! Holy shit it’s so insane! The fucking frog men haha
Eric Anderson
Smegma is in on it 100%
Stephen Tot
Seriously what the hell?! What are these guys calling themselves "kidnap R Us?"
Nicol Auld
Woah!!! Haven’t seen the documentary yet, but I remember some short video on it that played up the dude it it alone. Mind blown!
Heithem El-Hodiri
Just starting g this but wanted you to know say that this is my favorite thing - watching a documentary and then listening to James and Jimmy go through it!
Jeannette Pamaylaon
Just starting to listen now, but for fuck's sake poop and call 911 simultaneously.
Matressa, Countess of Whorington
I miss the seltzer.
Matressa, Countess of Whorington
"I think your mother's a whore". That was a sip of wine well spent.
Jen Karr
Am i crazy or did the ex's cop boyfriend maybe have something to do with it? I feel like that was touched on in the documentary but never resolved. Would love to know what everyone thinks. Thanks, James and Jimmie!
Karen
I lived in Nor. Cal when this happened, but I had no idea the whole organization was a real thing 😱 I always thought he acted alone. Great story guys!!
Nash essman
Drink a ton of polar seltzer. The cranberry ones look alot like a budweiser can. Wich can be problematic on jobsites and such
Dustyn Lumley
The rapper E-40 is from Mare Island.
Steve Tancredi
So many people need to be kicked in the dick.
imaweirdy2
Ah, a hometown story for me. Can confirm, from experience, Mustard is an asshole.
Alexis Smith (You're Welcome Jimmie)
Why do some men act like dicks when they're sick or in pain? I'm sorry. I had an ex like that
Jordyn Fahey
So glad you covered this, it was such a rollercoaster. 😵💫
Cindy Hollenbeck
Fuck! I remember twelve hours of club volleyball
Cindy Hollenbeck
Love you guys!
Jacob Johnson
Poor Mr. Rodgers
Madelyn Bryant
When I watched the documentary a couple years ago I was FLOORED
Madelyn Bryant
Just opened a bottle of whine bc my boyfriend got his wisdom teeth out today and he’s being an asshole so thank you James and Jimmie
Dan Evans
I lived in the Bay Area when this happened and absolutely nobody believed their story.
K-Bad
Sweet!