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BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - NATALIA GRACE

🕑 Added 2024-02-18 01:59:25 +0000 UTC

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Dan Forbes

I’ve never laughed harder than “ya know what I’m just going to say it glass jaw”!!! I almost pissed myself laughing. James you never disappoint

Stabby Paine

Absolutely not

Steph Kwek

I had to come listen to this again after the new series, came out. You guys need to do a follow up after the limited series on Hulu

Lenore Bell

Yeah, I’m gonna need you two to get back into the trenches with this show. I’m losing it over here!

Shannon Jones

They just did another update on this and the Manses are in full on cult mode. This whole story is unbelievably sad

Kathy Williams

Audrey Birch

Listening to this made me think of the movie Orphan. Not 100% but partially the fact the girl playing the Orphan is much older than the age she plays and you'd never know it.

Smalls (smallenoughtofit)

Natalia was a kid who probably had been abused, neglected, or abandoned by every adult she was around. And is INCREDIBLY vulnerable. Like, every person she came into contact with could hurt her HORRIFICALLY. And she's been physically weaker than probably every. single. person. she's ever met. Like, that will shape your mind and how you behave. Every person she meets is bigger, stronger, or faster than her. That's not something anyone can understand BUT her. Even the disabled adults who were cared for have an agency that she doesn't.

Lori White

Finally!!! Thought I was the only one who saw the gay in Michael🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kristy Conklin

Brooke cale

“I’m gonna pound one in her and then take her for abortion because I know you hate that too. “. I literally was screaming in the car.

Justin Glover

I hadn't heard of this case but I have subscribed to Discovery Plus because of James referencing 90 day fiancé so this is going to be next on my watchlist. Thank you both for a fascinating episode.

Penny

Just listened to this. I did not want to watch the show and I love these two guys and their sense of humor. So I thought why not. I would have told Antwan to shut the fuck up also.

Mayra

Their description of Michael 🤣. I really weird and sad story.

Bethany Tillema

Only thing with her age, everyone assumes she is lying. I also think people forget the language barrier, could you at the age of 9 remember what 9 vs 6 is in another language? I think it's more likely that the orphanage wanted to get rid of an expensive child that requires extra care and once the family stated they wanted someone around 6, told her she's 6 in English and told her to repeat that.

Christina deMelo

For anyone wondering, the documentary is called "The Curious Case of Natalia Grace"

Scott Miller

What's with the drinking James? I'm about to leave.

Rosemarie Cawkwell

I have not heard about this at all! And I'm late listening to this episode. This is fascinating.

Joe the Cynic

Surprisingly the dad doesn’t have a handbag dog with a sparkling collar. For the dog not him. Hell maybe he’ll have a matching one

Jeremy James

we binge watched this series and the part with the swearing, oh man, all of us were like whaaaattheeeeee heeeeck?!?!?!! I just wanna deck Michael in the face LOL

Joe the Cynic

I haven’t watched it yet but “He drives a Miata” is enough of a description.

sau1itud3

I just listened to The Dollop episode about him! Fuckin’ hilarious!😄

Autumn Tierney

I know this is unrelated but I figure you might see this comment. You guys would do a killer job on The Rube for crime and sports. Check him out, he’s got an unbelievable story!

Anine C

The electric fence discussion cracked me up. As kids, we pushed each other into them all the time. But if you want real hijinks, brush up against one while mounted on a horse. 🏇

froggy7983

YES, Lover, Stalker, Killer!!!

Cheri Holland

Started listening to this episode but stopped so I could watch the documentary series 1st. I don't know of any story that has had me so back and forth before. But, yeah, that dad is absolutely gay.

Eric Staub

I think they changed her age to help cover up or make the excuse for wht she wasn't a genius.

Mindy Mcghee

Thank you guys for covering this!!! It's had me reeling since the documentary!! See y'all in Oklahoma in Oct!! 🫶🫶🫶

R Murphy

What exactly are “gay vibes”?

Rob Dean

It’s all connected somehow

Rob Dean

Yes this is fuckin bonkers

Rob Dean

Finally watched this documentary. The part where the dad is beating and punching the floor… I just pictured Phillip Seymour Hoffman in Boogie Nights: “Idiot.. I’m an idiot! Idiot! Idiot! Idiot!”

Malin Oskarsson

Oh, I finally remembered! Hey guys👋 So, I have a suggestion. It would be absolutely amazing to hear you discuss Dr. Dorothy Lewis testimony from the Letecia Stauch murder trial, the only defense witness. If you haven't watched it... just do it. It's a fever dream on mushrooms, it's slapstick, it's dementia, it's awkward and fucking nuts!😱 It's got it all! Whole trial is up on YT, you're welcome. Love you guys!🥰

Kevyn Douty

This sounds a lot like the movie orphan

Rita Argentino

Twat box..lfmo!!@

Robert Bigelow

Great episode guys. Best Podcasters around, and I agree with James that Your Stupid Opinions is the funniest podcast in existence for laughs-per-minute.

Denise R. Simon

I like the brevity and novelty of these Patreon episodes.

Megan Williams

So funny

Jennifer Sharon

OMG SO FUNNY....MY GAY EX HUSBAND DROVE A MIADA HAHAHAHAH..

Andie

I never got my shoutout message! I signed up on 2/5 !

Sifyi

Hey Jimmy...my name is pronounced sci-fi..

Damon Stephens

I watched the doc before listening, per the usual. I'm even more confused now then before I started. Wtf is going on

Susan Borosh

THANK YOU!! I love you guys & great synopsis of this crazy case.

Patrick West

Agreed

Julie

I’m wondering who got paid for the documentary? Someone got money. I’m wondering if the Mann’s family perhaps wanted a portion of the funds and didn’t get it, that may explain their falling out. Also explains why Kristine is sniffing around again. I think all of these adults were/are exploiting her for financial gain. Why else would they be willing to participate in a documentary they know is going to make them look bad?

Wendy Friedland

I love you guys so much!

Lynnette Chambers

Great episode, keep ‘em coming!

Ken Kuipers

lol I have a friend that likes Miatas for project car fun, he's straight... so I recorded 14 seconds of the show"...Thats CLEARLY a gay man. Are we all on the same page with that? James, he drives a fucking Miata!" and sent it to him, that was too good not to share with a friend, am I wrong hahahaha

Eldergoth

Also, something seriously wrong with Michael. Who is the real baby here? Nothing like an emotionally reactive adult white male. Sexy.

Eldergoth

I really appreciate your fresh perspective, I knew this story was in good hands. I think there’s probably not an adult in this entire tale that isn’t worthy of hate. All the adults are about me me me, us us us. There’s barely room for others at all with people like that, not to mention children with specific needs. She’s probably lucky to be alive. You can really tell her young face versus her now much more adult face. People just suck. Love you!

Eldergoth

SAME ❤️

Swin

I didn’t think Michael seemed gay at all 🙄

Amanda Jay Daniels

Hey pastor, why don't you Go fuck your mother in her filthy twat box. Holy shit I'm dying.

Kayla

I am so glad that they did this! I was curious on the guy’s take on it and as I was expecting it was hilarious.

Amanda Jay Daniels

A miata and "break the plane backwards" with your wrist. Dead gay man giveaways 🤣

Gabrielle Moore

Why, why do I cackle every single time James says to go fuck your mother?? Every. Single. Time.

Ken Kuipers

the adoption/foster system is mostly corrupt. They lie all the time (I was adopted and know) and they don't do the background checks they should, the bank balance check is the most important check to pass.

Ken Kuipers

my cousin pushed me in to an electric fence and got me to put on the electric dog collar too when I was little. Those were the best times!

Teresa Rodriguez

Jimmie, I lost it with your “I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried!” It was spot on.

Kip Sousley

Filthy twat box killed me

Olivia Peterson

Thought of the movie “The Orphan” right away. But you can’t dispute the baby teeth thing. And That’s Why We Drink podcast covered this story this week and Christine said there’s a photo out there of Natalia playing with a little girl of a potential adoptive family and she clearly has baby teeth/teeth missing. This was also an episode of SVU, of course.

Endellion Hopkinton

Love Has Won: The Cult of Mother God. TCO just did Patreon episodes of that documentary.

Molotov_Mocktail

I've got $25 on Gypsy - that girl is scary af

Rob Dean

Hell yeah. I learned at a very young age that Shake and bake goes on really anything.

Rob Dean

“Radiation may have caused her pubes” dear god Jimmie lol

Rob Dean

I would freak people out by touching our fence and acting like it electrocuted me. It was fun.

Laura Culp

I can't wait to see Natalia vs Gypsy Rose 😂😂😂

Rae Rae

Agreed!

Rae Rae

🤣🤣🤣

Rae Rae

I LOL’d at that too.

Rae Rae

Omfg!!!! I’m dying!!!!!! You 100% just described my entire white trash existence with that dinner explanation! I literally had memories flood back! 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️

Alexandra Reed

First is she a frail lupus ridden victim or manipulative abuser? secondly, why is this Michael guy so fucking weird?

Amanda Bauerschmidt

Why don’t you go fuck your mother in the cunt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Crime in Sports and Small Town Murder

We did the 2023 scummy awards!!

Michael Hinchley

When can we expect Scummy Awards?

Carmen Weinand

As a parent of an adopted child, I will say she remembers horrific events that she went through the first 6 months of her life,but

Rob Dean

“Sell her a dildo bigger than her”.. thank you James… almost drove off the fuckin road lol lol

Dr Phil Goode 👹🌲🔥

It's odd Michael backed up some stories Kristen says. Then he does a 180 after a couple episodes. I don't think Natalia could do some of the accusations due to her disability. This got big cuz The Orphan movie, I think Kristine got that idea. Mike is def gay, no shade, he just needs to do him. I don't trust any of them, the crazy hot mic moment where the son says he kicked Natalia down the stairs w his mic on, they never addressed that. Crazy story, I've got empathy and sympathy for anyone w a life changing disability. And damn the musicians lil guy is hilarious

Michelle Miller

I find Michael unbelievable and watching him, listening to him gives me the creeps.

Rob Dean

Who hasn’t floored their Miata to the Spice Girls?

Andrea L. Fellows

“I don’t trust them either because he’s a pastor.” 🤣🤣🤣 Yep. Same, James.

Farrah R

This was a gift to wake up to this morning. James talking about swearing had me in tears! And the Spice Girls blaring as Michael floored his Miata, 😂, amazing!

Anna Gae

as a certified gay i dont think michael is gay i think hes a predator and a manipulator. i think he comes across as fruity on purpose to seem nonthreatening and cast doubt on whether he raped natalia or not.

Angelina Marconi

Jimmie imitating Michael - "I tried! I tried! I tried!" Then the trail of glitter left behind 😆🌟

Brian Ashley

I was putting hot sauce on my eggs when you talked about “eating her period”. Goddammit

Cher Love Strong (#LocalWeedia)

When this thing came out, I laughed, was aghast, cried. All emotions from imagining a vivid James and Jimmie sitting with me, commenting watching this. Yes! There was noticeable enthusiasm on Facebook about hearing this one! Now, I do believe Michael is gay. And, like his son, autistic. W/PTSD. Just guessing. Assuming James would feel mostly similar, I was still surprised when he sympathized as much as he did with Michael! That man needs to fully realize his responsibility. - Michael at the end flipping his hand and making it all go away, as he drove off, was my favorite part. The doc makers are unapologetic wieldy runts. - I’ll watch another. I’m so glad this Patreon came out so fast! Thanks Js&Co! PS- *Lima beans what were they thinking. * * Can’t wait for the 4/20 show. <3

Jeannette Pamaylaon

I had to jump to a video to see dad. I've never watched any docu or such of them. But yes, totally get the gay vibes.

Jamie Slater

Thankfully I have another episode I don't have to skip through at an opportune time because you guys are reading an ad but I'm also talking to somebody at my job. I mean don't worry you guys get precedence I look at the person I go hold on a second and I take out my phone and Skip through that Addy part.

E. Vonne.

Hamburger helper & frozen veggies for dinner over here! Where it takes 6 figures to be above the lower middle class. Enjoy and hoard that stove top and frozen veggies. 🤣

Stephen Tot

"Come and take a look at her pubes?" I spat out my drink

Lizzie

I still eat stove top stuffing and frozen veggies. Because us poors gotta eat too lol

Kasey Moore

As a small, dumb kid I was used to test our electric fence by my older sister 🤦‍♀️😂

Lelah Baca

I got the same gay vibe from Michael as well. I am also very skeptical of Antoine and his motives. What a head spinner.

Cody Webb

This is one of the funniest podcasts I’ve ever heard. I was laughing my ass off the entire time

Julia

Clifton Park, NY is where NXIVM was headquartered. 😳

Tracie Williams

"I tried! I tried!" Spot on impersonation 😂

Rosalie Brown

Man, this one hit me. I was adopted at 4 years old to horrible people, and hearing this girl's journey...wowza. Of course this woman/kid was gonna have issues. The 'adults' are hawrable! I hope she makes it. These people are trash. Well done, J&J!