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Bonfireside Chat 292: Gravesite Plain (Part 1)
🕑 Added 2024-07-28 17:00:06 +0000 UTCWe need as many graves as you have. No wait, that's too many. The Gravesite Plain more than lives up to its name, being the entry point for a land that draws in all forms of death. Some of the most recent deaths, however, are the victims of Messmer the Impaler's bloody and fiery crusade. This week we talk about the DLC's first hours, including the Scorched Ruins and their attendant Furnace Golem.
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Jessie joy
I assumed that you were suppose to hide from these wicker things. It sets up some pretty cool scenarios where they can walk right by and not see you. Very very up close and terrifying
Jessie joy
Could be mistaken, pretty sure those veils around the tree are the same ones in the Ever Gaol
DigitalDusto
Fantastic idea w the map. Thank you. It's as valuable as erdtree favor +2
Oren Genkin
I like the map you guys!
Mystic Referee
Hell yeah! Been a real big bummer of people defending her genocide in this game with all the real world revenge war bullshit surrounding us.
Chapel Collins
My understanding is that they'll do ANYTHING for daddy's summies.
Quin Tutor
This may just be me but I thought that the canyon you spawn into for the DLC looked almost identical to the starting spawn in DS3’s cemetery of ash
Austin Mathis
Or fell one?
Austin Mathis
ACTUALLY RELEVANT TO THIS EPISODE: I definitely went right immediately (I always just hug any wall/cliff and stick to the right when I’m sweeping an area, I just hate the feeling of walking straight in toward the middle when I’m passing things on both sides) and got wolverined many times before turning to this episodes covered area, and the first thing I said when encountering the first curseblood Hornsent guy was “those fuckers from DS3!!!” I thought it was the exact same design and everything because of that way they jumped on my head. The big furnace boy I felt SURE was an environmental hazard until much later when I saw lil aggy fall one I said rohh? Like scooby doo
Austin Mathis
Genuinely have no one else to tell lol
Austin Mathis
(Sorry to be commenting my reaction to the game in real time rather than the episode area)
Austin Mathis
The day they patched the difficulty, I opened the game and beat the final boss who had me stuck. I probably would’ve rather beat them at the difficulty I had been stuck at, because picking up the controller and first trying it post-patch just felt like the patch beat them. On top of that, my summon struck the final blow after I had already died. I came back to the Grace and memory left there, and couldn’t accept that it was the final boss (I previously didn’t realize it was lol) so….. not a very satisfying feeling realizing I couldn’t climb those steps on the other side of the arena. Buummmer of an ending for MY playthrough (not narratively, just gameplay-wise)
Drew
I missed grabbing this incantation, thanks for the heads up.
Drew
Great first real episode . I have made good progress in my playthrough and I really like where the story is going and I'm excited to hear you both get into it and make the vast connections back to the main game. Although I do like a few complicated fictions like Metal Gear or Twin Peaks, I felt Gary hard when he said basically said this was pushing the edge of what I can take. This podcast is huge for helping me wrangle all the narrative threads. Also appreciate that I can hear you both vent about most of these bosses as well. I also started using a shield for the first time ever in ER because of the bosses (although the duelist shield is pretty damn cool). So many cool weapons in this DLC in particular.
Daniel Runfola
By the way for anyone using a faith build - pest thread spears absolutely melt the furnace golems
Daniel Runfola
This season is already so great, guys! We are so back
Duckfeed.tv
Marika comes out of this like shit, big time. It's huge GRRM cycle of violence stuff. -GB
Goldie
Also, not only does the game scream grrm, but messmer does in frankly incredible particular. It's vibes, but I swear to god I feel it.
Goldie
Really refreshing to hear respectful & sympathetic coverage of the hornsent. Personally, I think the usage of "holy war" & "crusade" in regards to the violence waged by the Erdtee here points to the colonialism thread as present in the dlc (Not saying you guys ignore it, just stating my thoughts 😭 Tone can be hard to read on the internet). I honestly left shadow of the erdree feeling worse towards Marika, which I genuinely consider a story success of the game. Something interesting about the wicker men is that- I saw this in a Bonfirevn video- they contain the corpse of a dragon, specifically not an ancient dragon, which is very interesting when looked at in the contexts of future revelations in craggy areas. Love the map!
cojiro123
The map is amazing! Can't wait to listen
Duff
Just realizing the spiral magic is a Guran lagaan reference
Chris Hudson
I only ever killed them with the critical strike to the face. I think I had to knock them down twice. I never even tried the heavy pots.
Ak1raTron
And just a correction RE the Fire Golems. The ones (most of them) with the rope ankles - once you have knocked them down, you can visceral. Also the resource you get from them is rare but also there is an area on the map where they infinitely respawn so not that rare once you know this.
Ak1raTron
Love the map, it would be very cool at the end of the season to see this patchworks version on the elden ring map with all the BSC markers and doodle on them. Cool t shirt idea
Mateusz Swietoslawski
I love the map <3
Mateus Silva
The little drawing is incredible
Joe Binson
Ha, I appreciate the map guide.
Oliver Tripp
Good to have you back. I wouldn’t normally come with corrections as such, but as it featured so heavily in the episode I feel duty bound to note that you can just visceral the furnace golems twice once staggered to kill them instead of using pots.
Richard Cochnar
Very cute map doodles. Glad to have the boys back for another from soft season.
Duckfeed.tv
Be careful, saying Decroded is addictive! -GB
Kathryn
p.s. I love love love the little map doodles!
Kathryn
This episode opens with such an evocative description of the Scadutree! Returning to the game after listening to the episode, I felt that I was able to better appreciate how strange and beautiful the Scadutree actually is. Also, unironically, "decroded" is my new favorite word.
Kalem Wedemyer
Thanks for the map inclusion guys! It really helps me know what you're going to cover in the episode before listening
Passsty
Beautiful! Thanks for the explanation Kole! I could listen to a whole albums worth of that style 😁 Very nicely done!
Micah Tillman
Oh, and I had no idea you could do the fire thing with the normal fire guys. During even one of their partial staggers? Or only when they fall all the way down?
JackelZXA
What a helpful map! Really looking forward to this season. I've been doing a full replay of the whole game (even doing all the catacombs and caves again). The "New Items" tab makes it really easy to keep track of items when reading through lore. Already I'm finding a few things that are standing out to me with the advent of DLC knowledge. Currently, I'm trying to keep an eye out for anything that might tie the Curse Ending to what happened in the Lands of Shadows. (Curse Ending = Vengeance Ending?)
Micah Tillman
Needle Knight Leda: She pronounces her name "led-uh" (as in, "I led, uh, like a thousand dudes into battle once"). What throws me off if the "Needle" part of her name leading me to expect "lee-duh" Cloth stuff: Quelaag says that the drapery over the Shadowtree is a baldichin (see Marika's bedchamber, Fia's blessing, etc.): (1) https://youtu.be/DXHgH52P1Jw?t=175 and (2) https://youtu.be/k5ecJREcd08?t=467 The second vid there connects the tree drapery to the building coverings but just based on still images, I think. I like Gary's interpretation of the building coverings as a kind of burial shroud. Probably not mutually exclusive though. Curseblade enemies: Somebody pointed out that their basic pose (hunched over, arms out with two circular weapons to their sides) looks an awful lot like diagrams of the female reproductive system in a school textbook. Weird for a bunch of ascetics to be posing in a way suggestive of procreation/fecundity. Not weird for the team who made Bloodborne to be interested in making the female reproductive processes intimidating.
Duckfeed.tv
Yeah, I enjoy making the little doodles. - K
Chad Laing
Love the hand drawn Wickerman Fire Giant and Sharpy boi. Will these map guides continue throughout? Will you be hand drawing other enemies or npcs of interest?
Duckfeed.tv
I've checked out the audio in a few places and I'm not hearing any problems. Have you tried to see if it happens on another app? - K
Duckfeed.tv
I played it! You have a good ear because it's my acoustic guitar tuned to open D minor (the saddest of all keys, makes people weep instantly). I'm only fretting the highest string, sliding up 2, 3, 5, and 7 (E, F, G, and A). The outro theme is the same tuning and notes, just fingerpicked. - K
Adam Ferenz
This isn’t the first time this has happened but is there a reason the playback on the last couple episodes sounds like a record or cd that is skipping? And is there a fix for it?
Passsty
Random place to put this question, but that guitar track in the intro, who wrote/played it? And is it in an open tuning? If so, what is it? I've listened to every episode of BSC and always wondered. It's an awesome piece of music, and this seems as good a place as any to ask! 😁
