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Watch Out for Fireballs! 227: Bioshock Infinite (Premium)

🕑 Added 2019-02-14 10:00:01 +0000 UTC

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Anthony Edwards

No doubt, Bioshock Infinite was playing with deeply serious themes, (bigotry and systemic oppression) that in retrospect, it didn't fully respect and do justice. However I dont agree with the thought, "You cant tell a person who's been oppressed that retaliatory violence and killing is wrong." I understand someone believing revenge is justified when directed at despicable human beings. You shouldn't need a lived experience of being oppressed to discern between right and wrong. (And this is my personal belief derived from traumatic exp in my own life) It is wrong to assault and kill another human. Yes bad ppl should face punishment. Yes wanting them to suffer and die is a normal human emotion. But, violence/killing is how the cycle is perpetuated indefinitely. And the violence/killing you commit, justified or not, will haunt you and society for years to come. soap box speech over lol

BlaiseBaileyFinneganIII

Love this episode.

Jamie Kempkers

This one is the one. There are disclaimers about "others have said this better" but this gets to the heart of the matter in that thoughtful, well-articulated but plainspoken WOFF style which just locks in to what needed to be said about this game. Essential listening. Not ignorant. Succinct. Well observed. Honest and revealing. This game game is interesting but in more bad ways than good. Fuck Ken Levine's irresponsible bullshit cultural backdropping historical tourist style white centrist fucking bullshit. Aged like toast soaked in milk from 1912.

Stephen Milazzo

Like many, the gameplay is pretty fun. The other aspects not so much.

Eric

While I appreciate the in depth commentary on the game itself, the opinions that leftist politics are the ONLY correct way to vote that they express is just downright ignorant

Daniel Cheetham

I became a patron to hear this episode too. Awesome work guys!

Matthew Dedrick

I hated almost every minute of this game when it came out, so I’m glad to hear how much you guys disliked it. Really good podcast. You got me to sign up for patreon and support you with this one.

Adam Bucceri

This was such an amazing episode. An absolutely scathing takedown, and it was 100% deserved. I'm in absolute agreement with you guys that Noah Gervais is the best Youtube games critic working today (that I know of), and am in equal agreement that his discussion of Infinite is by far where I have disagreed with him the most. The end cap of "What should you watch out for?" was perfection. Just perfection. This is why you guys are my favorite podcasters by far. You have the chemistry and the chops to discuss this critically, but you also provide context and a worldview. You bringing yourselves to this and taking a goddamn stance on things you believe in is hugely, hugely valuable. Never change. Keep up the great work.

Mike Suskie

Loved this game when I came out (I think I preferred the brisker pace over the meandering design of the previous two), my political mind has grown a lot since and I'm pretty scared to revisit it.

gwenny_

Really appreciate the depth you go into on this one. 4hrs almost doesn't seem long enough to cover all of the ways this game has gone down as a failure to read the writing on the wall politically.

shea dewar

Booker catch!

Richard Cochnar

Great episode! I really loved this game when it came out, though I can't imagine I'd be able to tolerate it's politics now.

ReadyAmesFire

“ba ba ba ba ba bahhhh” A+ content.

Duckfeed.tv

🙏

Joelle

Wow guys, this is some of your best work. It’s cathartic to hear you not only take down the game, but the bullshit noncommittal attitude that spawned it (malebolgia)

Shaun Sannerude

After loving Bioshock, I found the shooting mechanics in Infinite to be very tiresome. Enemies were bullet sponges & it didn’t flow as well

Eric Nagurney

HOOOOOO boy I am excited! I played through this whole game a few weekends ago and it felt like eating a whole bag of plain chips when you're not really even hungry.