Supernatural S15 End of Season Chat

I think a much better ending for Dean would’ve been Amy’s son coming back to kill him. I was not really satisfied with how it went down. They could’ve done better than that.

Amye Sabin

I don't think we needed to know what was going on in Hell. The show is about THE BOYS, not Rowena & Hell or Jack & Heaven. I do agree that the fact that they didn't have Cas back was a heartbreak, but Misha <b>wanted</b> to go out that way, sacrificing himself for Dean. So maybe it was a combination of his decision, along with the writers to not bring Cas back personally in the Finale. And having him meet Dean in Heaven might take away from that sacrifice. You know my feelings about Jack, for the most part, and I would've been OFFENDED to have him come back when it should be about THE BOYS. It's well known that Andrew Dabb did not like Jensen and all the accolades he got, (watch panels, they never address each other, sit by each other, or rarely acknowledge each other) and fawned all over *his creation* Jack, that contributes to my dislike of the cooing over this character.<p></p> <p>Rather than have Jody, Donna, Garth, etc back, I would've preferred the original ending with Ellen, Jo, Ash, Charlie, etc - those they lost, meeting Dean in Heaven.</p> <p>While I do agree that having God as the final big bad, was a good idea, the fact that TPTB took the character of Chuck, an adorable quirky character completely changed him on his head, didn't make sense. It was a complete change of persona. The same with Amara, she was this angry, dark entity, and all of a sudden she's this sweet manipulated celestial. The characterizations this season really bothered me. From Chuck & Amara to Dean to Lucifer. I liked Billie as a character, but I never trusted her - <b>ever</b>. One, she always said she wanted the boys, Dean in particular, dead. Two, aft Ruby it's hard to trust anyone on this show not named, Sam Dean Jody Donna Garth Bobby or Charlie.</p> <p>S15 is one of my least two favorites, along with S7, but while S7 has some really strong episodes, to me, S15 has only a handful. And I did like the Finale, but I thought since the original pre-COVID ending wasn't possible, having Dean just drive around in Heaven negated his death - to me. You kill off this fantastic character, making us <i>feel</i>, but then he's back on the screen 10 min later. I'd like to see more of Sam's struggles without Dean, or what he was doing, or <b>who he married</b>, what happened with the Bunker, did Dean II hunt? They could've had Dean & Bobby meet Sam at the end, then mention Jack & Cas's fixing Heaven. Think about all the way in S2, all their Hunter's funerals have been private. They never even told Bobby's network (at first) about his death. I remember Sam saying something like "shouldn't we let Bobby's people know?" I also didn't like how Sam didn't take the few minutes to tell Dean how much he meant to <i>him</i> How everything Dean has ever done, has been to protect & raise Sam. It felt like blowing smoke up Sam's ass, to the detriment of Dean's self-esteem (again). Don't get me wrong, I loved that scene and they acted the <b>hell</b> out of it, but why can't anyone -not named Cas - ever give Dean his due?</p> <p>I look forward to seeing your reaction to the many, many, many Cons. I know there are a lot I still haven't seen.</p>