82. The Perfect Trigger (Remington Arms)
🕑 Added 2022-06-21 01:35:25 +0000 UTCAmerica's oldest gun manufacturer denies that its most popular product is defective and dangerous.
Prelude: A deadly toy gun is recalled by Family Dollar.
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Comments
Zoey Charlemagne
Hey ACC can you or any valued listeners who see this recommend any good documentaries about guns in the usa?
Aimee Spingath
Nobody should ever be cleaning a firearm that is loaded. You canโt actually clean it with the round chambered anyway. That was stupidity on the part of the incompetent owner and an incredibly heartbreaking case for the victim. There is a reason why responsible ownership involves not storing them loaded.
Cathy Kantor
I donโt know shit about guns and I was wondering the same thing. Why the hell was that idiot cleaning a loaded gun?
Sarah Meghan
Does the SAS using Remingtons? I've Got Your Back with Ben Pearson episode SAS Legend Chris Ryan Aug 2, 2022, 42 minutes in
Dana Contini
By any chance do you have the name of the video that was Remingtonโs rebuttal?
Heaven Lansdell
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Acon Cernczyn
This was one of your best. Absolutely fantastic, well researched, flawless. It's so maddening how true this is also. And evil. I work in the 2nd most regulated industry behind nuclear, medical device manufacturing. (Shout out to the dalcon epi!) I conduct recalls. I'm genuinely proud of the fact I do work for a company that stays vigilant and immediately pulls/corrects products if there's any indication of harm. Im not just saying that either. So im stunned that firearms manufacturers are subject to so little regulatory oversight ... it took them HOW DF LONG to issue a recall !!!??? We get a recall off and running in less than a month!!!!! I hate when corporations dodge recalls as they let people die... ugh. But, well done. Brilliant ๐
TRC
Shockingly brilliant episode, seems to sum up corporate America in an hour.
Michelle Hebert
This was an excellent step-by-step how-to course in American Corporate greed and negligence. 1) Deny, deny, deny; 2) Lie by saying "public safety is our highest priority"; 3) Blame the customer/user; 4) Sue everyone who tells the truth about your company and your defective product; 5) Blame someone inside the company who is dead or no longer there. If all that fails, you can always change the company name and hope no one remembers.
Michelle Hebert
Camryn Berk -- my favorite product warning was on a curling iron I bought. It said, "Do not use while sleeping." ๐๐
Michelle Hebert
Oh my, ACC. Hope you really do have that SimpliSafe because all the NRA-worshipping gun fetishists are gonna come after you, now. They cherish their lunatic conspiracy theories about how Democrats are just dying to take away their precious guns and they don't like anyone pointing out how ridiculous that paranoia is.
Camryn Berk
In the US (with the exception of guns due to the gun lobby of course) product safety is based on what an average person would do. The average person is not assumed to use things correctly. The โaverage personโ is the reason that hair dryers have a tag saying not to take them in the bath. Most people know it is idiotic to try and dry your hair while you are in water, but the tag is there because someone died that way. My point is basically that it doesnโt matter that this person was an idiot cleaning a loaded gun. If it were any other product, in the eyes of US law, if you can imagine a consumer using a product in a stupid way you need to create a safeguard.
Iona
Not blaming the victim because this IS clearly a design defect but... Why was that one person cleaning the rifle with live ammo in it? Or was he just about to remove it? It's like how that death on that movie set shouldn't have happened because all safe practice for film sets doesn't involve pointing real guns at people, much less real guns with real bullets
Sean Gleason
This is crazy, I knew Taurus had issues. I haven't finished the episode yet, but I will say they have fix many if not all of their issues.
Sally Norris
Scary stuff, even for a Brit, where the population donโt own guns, we leave that to the police and the armed forces. Excellent episode, thank you.
R G
Thank you for your hard work
Emily P
It's the same calculus for drug and car recalls. The cost of lawsuits vs the cost of fixing the product so it doesn't kill people.
Anastasia Martin
The memo stating how it would be more financially viable to settle with victims rather than fix the problem ๐ฌ๐ข๐ณ๐ซ๐ก๐คฌ
Claudia
Full body chills. Everything about this episode is just so deeply upsetting, when will this senselessness end.
Amie Redman
Wow. Heavy stuff here. Another great, heart wrenching episode. I need to ask my dad which rifle he has now.
Summer Gnage
Damn acc on a roll the last few weeks. Heavy and hard hitting episodes.
Swindled
I was just repeating what the source said. Don't shoot the messenger. Heh.
Atoc
I gotta point this out because it's silently killing me, but the thing that holds ammo in pistols, most rifles, etc, is a magazine, not a clip. Clips are usually (more) disposable things that hold ammo to put into a weapon's internal magazine, such as an M1 Garand's enbloc. *in general* if the ammo is enclosed on all but one side, it's a magazine, if it's exposed on more than that, it's a clip. Then again, knowing you, you may already know this and you're saying it this way to annoy people like me. ACC pls fix ๐