Nekyias (@CarlJungMemes)
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(REDUX) EPISODE 2 PT 1: THE DREAM
🕑 Added 2023-03-16 02:11:56 +0000 UTCBack to the beginning—I've been wanting to do this for a while, and I am so, so excited to finally be able to post it.
In this episode, we talk metaphysics—specifically, the dream vs materialist views of reality, and how the dream view opens up not only greater tools for tackling depression, but a deeper experience of life itself. I lead us through what it looks and feels like to be stuck within the materialist view, and how to "shift" your experience of reality. This material is highly influenced by the work of Federico Campagna, Peter Kingsley, and, of course, Carl Jung.
For non-patrons: If you're completely unfamiliar with my work, I recommend taking a quick peek at my original Katabasis/Anabasis Guide to Depression from 2021, on either my Instagram (@CarlJungMemes) or at the bottom of this Patreon before diving in. If you have time, I'd also recommend listening to the first episode of this series (which has not yet been revised in the same way, but will be shortly), although I do think this material is still approachable without the introduction. This is the second of two free episodes.
For patrons: This episode is part one of a revision of the second episode, explaining the dream view of reality as it relates to my model of depression. The number one piece of feedback I've received was that the original episode 2 (really, the beginning stage of this model, as the first episode is mainly introduction) was a little too technical. The goal of this episode (as well as part 2, which will be up shortly) is to shift your experience of reality, and I don't think I achieved that the first time around. I HIGHLY recommend listening to this episode no matter how comfortable you felt with the first version—some of the material is the same, but mostly it's fundamentally a different approach to the subject. The original Episode 2 will still be available if you'd like to revisit it, and I've got a lot more patreon-exclusive content coming for you guys very soon, including some non-scripted content and exploration of ideas outside the Katabasis model. Also, new intro music!
The Dream (text from the original guide):
"The Dreamer knows nothing of the Dream. Until and unless it collapses, the Dreamer cannot know anything more of the Dream than what she is, with limited vocabulary, able to gesture toward broadly—concepts like identity, worldview, self-mythology, personal narrative, ideology, belief and schema are the best words we have. I use the “Dream” to refer to our personal understanding of reality. Most of us live inside the Dream. The Dream is always, at least partially, mistaken for the truth. I will use the term Dreamer to describe the depressed individual, although life inside the Dream does not necessarily lead to experiences of mental illness—it is only when the Dream grows too distant from truth and begins to collapse. Sometimes, the dreamer is able to mend the Dream, or otherwise temporarily bolster a collapsing Dream with the help of a current prevailing ideology. Barring this, the collapsing Dream will send the dreamer into a state of crisis—this marks the beginning of a depression."
Comments
Rich Lamb
I'd consider myself a reasonably grounded individual, and your phrase on reality and experience reminds me of episodes that see me in that in-between place within. That without reflects/is that within. A dream over 20 years ago, at a pivot, a fork in the road that, I can say without doubt, brought me to Jung's works, my own inward arc, and to this podcast. A week before a life-transforming, c.700 ft winter climbing fall, I first encountered "Ala'na", a feminine figure who has appeared in vivid, numinous, meaning-laden dreams at liminal points since February 2001.
Hunter Rush
"...treat his map like the terrain itself, just like a millennial navigating a new city with his head buried deep in google maps and the yelp app." Really coming for my neck on this one
