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Humanity Lost new lore mega post.

🕑 Added 2025-02-22 13:54:18 +0000 UTC
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.
Humanity Lost new lore mega post.

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Alien Person

Can't wait until then! Also yeah thinking about it it also makes sense that those orbs serve defensive purposes also, perhaps they can serve as a (relatively) mini arsenal of nykoll Dyson lasers (or whatever they're called). Could be interesting to see infographics about the membrane or other specific models of imperium crafts and ranks in the next volume perhaps? Like the krakens or anomalocsris or the ascended overfathers who attacked deicide (I forget the title they were given haha), but none of that is anything you need to elaborate on anytime soon, the amount of lore infographics you've gotten done so far is already super impressive!

Callum Diggle

Thanks, I had a lot of fun coming up with it, I’d really like to expand upon this period in the future, but it will have to wait until the main story is complete. Yeah it’s an extremely terrifying thought that the last humans were fearing every crack and gap in a wall for fear of an infected fly or door mouse coming for them. The weaponisation of the bio-sphere is something that the imperium do on other worlds too, that’s canon now. That’s a very good question and when I first designed that thing however many years ago it was, I imagined those gigantic orbs being used defensively as a weapon. In my mind at the time they could project beams of energy at targets and also cast a protective shield between orbs. Some of your suggestions could also be true though, they could double up as gravitational stabilisers using the rotation of the Defensive Membrane and the centrifugal effect created by it to stabilise the membrane and stop it from collapsing in on itself. They could also serve as energy reserves too. Thanks, I look forwards to getting to that too, it’s an exciting but also dark period in HL.

Callum Diggle

Thanks, I think it makes the history of HL a little more interesting to have numerous major events happening all at the same time leading up to the crescendo of the singularity. Yeah man it’s so dark, I was reluctant to even go there to be honest. I think it would be understood that they evolved on a regular womb world and it was later converted into the Defensive Membrane, that’s the only thing that makes sense I think.

Callum Diggle

Thanks so much mate!

Callum Diggle

🙏🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻

Callum Diggle

Thanks so much man, I’m glad you think so!

Callum Diggle

Thanks so much mate! Exactly right, the UE could take on any power, even an entire continent of powers, but it could not sustain a war on all fronts. You’re absolutely right and UE morale was low as a result. Oh undoubtedly so, but that’s something that I think I will have to expand upon in the prequel I think. I think you're right there and you’ve painted quite a vivid picture of what it might have been like. The idea of a completely unaware population suddenly having war on their doorsteps is a terrifying one. Another interesting aspect to think about is how the United Earth would dehumanise citizens of the free nations in order to motivate their own population to fight them and what horrors would this cause on the ground for them? War is ugly. As for how the Various nation-states would see the populations in the lands they conquered, seeing as there were a multiplicity of powers with differing world views and means of retaking their former lands, their views of the citizens of the UE would vary greatly from benign to outright hatred. I think pity would prevail within the governments and deportations of UE citizens to the remainder of UE territory would be the official line. As you said, displacement to the fringes of their newly claimed territory would be the orders from on high. This is war however and to be realistic, many soldiers would build up resentments of their own from years of fighting and perform unspeakable acts as a form of revenge. This is unfortunately something that has always happened in war.

Callum Diggle

Oof you painted quite a picture there haha I think you’re right there, they are her children, she is strict and sometimes cruel to them, but she wouldn’t want to be without them. We know that there is some sentimentality within the All-Mother, however infinitesimal and remote, so it makes sense. I don’t think she would want to be completely alone either, she might decide to live in the fantasy that she has created for her creations.

Callum Diggle

Thanks so much Erika. That’s a great question, it would just be the beginning of a strange new era, but this time with the addition more powerful alien presence in the system. I think the Conglomerate would have to pause and take council initially, they would see if they could find new grounds for invasion. That invasion might just end up being of what remained of the rump United Earth after the final world war seizing whatever assets they had left and thus establishing a foothold in the Sol system, it would be quite an interesting scenario. If any power attacked them they would declare war and take what is there’s, that’s for certain. As for the All-Mother question, I think we’d have a very different story, if those very precise restrictive parameters were clearly defined to her and were implemented into her programming, things would have turned out very differently, but that would require significant foresight. With that being said, an AI of the All-Mothers calibre could always find wiggle room in between the lines in her code where she could warp and completely change her restrictive programming.

Baichen Luo

Like chrysalis form HFY

Callum Diggle

Ooo that would be very interesting! Perhaps I could make a short comic or an illustrated novella to accompany the planned prequel comic as bonus material 🤔 it could perhaps even make it into the back-matter of volume 3

Erika Spooner

Absolutely amazing!!! What do you think would have happened if the other countries on Earth beat the U.E. before they could activate AM? Would the Conglomerate have conquered and subjugated them anyway? What do you think would have happened if more orders were given that stated that AM couldn't do the things she did in Humanity Lost so she couldn't turn all of humanity into meat puppets but rather had to keep the U.E. intact as well? Was it thought that restrictions on her would be seen as an act of aggression that would cause her to turn against humanity?

Planetace

I wonder what would happen if the All Mother truly wins and dominates the Universe under her screaming and squelching tide of human biomass. Would she get rid of the All-Fathers? No longer in need of her "stewards" to manage the logistics of the universe since she now controls the entirety of eternity? Or is she somewhat more than an eldritch optimiser gone too far, and would leave them around for sentimentality, just like the Moon. The All Mother is certainly an ASI, but it does appear she habours some form of eldritch emotion and performs illogical actions like keeping the moon around (rather than repurpose it into a mini womb-world.)

Baichen Luo

Story from AM's perspective when?

OdinSon_1774

Awesome post. SO many new facts and questions. The last world war really makes the UE look like the emperor everyone realizes has no clothes. Like, the UE was probably strong enough to fight any one or two wars at a time, but it seems that the final war was defiantly going to see the UE dismantled or reduced to a rump state, but for the All-Mother. Was that the result of the Conglomerate war weakening the UE somehow, or was the UE always perceived as stronger than it actually was by the free nations? (I also think the idea of a global anti-globalist coalition is funny). Second, do you have any idea about battle doctrine/results of the various nations involved in the last war? While I might just be projecting my negative views on the UE, they seem like the kind of nation that fights it's wars by just dumping material and troops on the front line without much concern about the quality of their forces or their fate. I could see that working, again, against a single nation or a limited front, but the demands of the Last war would break strain even the economic and population might of the UE. Did any of the Free Nations utilize any troops, weapons, or strategies that stand out? Finally, it seems that tons of territory was taken back and/or away from the UE. That suggests that a lot of population switched hands too. What did the conquered and the conquerors think of each other? I imagine for the UE subjects it was incredibly distressing and surprising. Considering how sanitized their media was, I wouldn't be surprised that they didn't know the war was going badly until their city was captured, if they even knew a war was going on at all! Then when you consider that might have been the first time they realized that the UE was lying about the state of the world and the universe, it was probably incredibly distressing. As for the Free Nations, I could see two mentalities. On one hand they might pity the populations they seized, as the subjects of the UE were just as much they victims of the UE policy of control and atomization as anyone else. I could also see that they might view them as the demographic equivalent to scabs, people brought into by the UE to their former homelands to displace their ancestors. That could see some nations forcibly displacing the conquered UE subjects, with others opting for even more extreme options in their reconquests.

Justin Huynh

This gives the AM a little more nuance. Sure, she's a killer goddess AI, but there were complex reasons behind it.

StarFishHugger

Whoop whoop!!!

Mantarok1205

very nice

Fire_Warrior22

Amazing as always lad. It's very interesting to finally see how the Final World War went and the fact that it was mainly the rest of humanity and partially the Conglomerate that led to the activation of the All Mother. And damn I knew that the lives of the last unaltered and uncontrolled humans on Earth would be dark but I never expected it to be this hellish. Also the lie told by the All Mother to the Post Humans regarding their origins is quite intriguing and intelligently crafted but I wonder how she justified them evolving on her protective membrane, unless Earth still existed by the time the first Post Humans emerged.

Alien Person

This is AWESOME! this huge lore dump was definitely worth the wait! I must say firstly that I respect all the research and thought and dedication that went into your future politics, it must have taken quite some time to learn about so many different real world cultures and write about them in organic ways, and I also appreciate how much of earth's geography you sought to represent besides just western superpowers. I also never thought about the all mother genetically altering earth's biosphere beyond humans, but I find that fascinating too. like with humans, could she utilise all other animals, plants, fungi, microbes etc as eyes and ears to carry out her will? I'm also still wondering about the huge membrane protecting the earthband what it's about. I've wondered for a while now, but why is that membrane shaped the way it is, particularly those large bright orbs? What purpose do they serve? I imagined they must have been some kind of gravitational stabilisers to keep the large solid structure together, but I'd like to hear the official explanation as to what it actually is. Also can't wait to see the story told from the perspective of some of the last of unaltered humanity! Great work as always


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